Is a person that builds a Notable historic house considered Notable?

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Joseph Pennock, Esq., (Pennock-95) is best known for building "Primitive Hall" in 1738. Historians and architects consider it one of the most important houses in Pennsylvania. The house is still standing and was listed by the National Register of Historic Places in 1975. His land was part of the original William Penn land grant and he was good friends with John Morton, a signer of the Declaration of Independence, and served with him in the Pennsylvania Assembly.

Since his house, "Primitive Hall", is notable and has it's own Wikipedia page should he be considered notable and tagged as such?

I'm still in the process of writing his biography and wanted to know.
WikiTree profile: Joseph Pennock
in The Tree House by John Sigh G2G6 Mach 1 (12.8k points)
I would say when the entry about the house he built talks more about the builder than the house, that builder should be notable!  I see you have already added the notables template.  You have such a fine biography of Joseph, perhaps you should consider adding it to WikiPedia and creating Joseph's own entry? :-)

Thanks for the compliment. Maybe when I have time I'll get around to writing a separate wikipedia page for him. Considering that Joseph Pennock is mentioned in every paragraph of the wikipedia page on Primative Hall it might as well be about him. Also there are a number of other websites that talk about him just not in as much detail (e.g. and

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Hey John,

I been by there a couple times. Real neat property.

I took a look at the Notables Project page and appears they have a description of what falls under notables you can find that here Qualifications for Profiles

We use Wikipedia's standards for notability. Note, though, that many notable people do not yet have a page on Wikipedia. Feel free to ask Project Leaders about whether someone meets the guidelines, or read through them yourself and use your best judgment. Many, many important people are not on WikiTree yet!

by Steve McCabe G2G6 Pilot (362k points)
selected by Lynden Rodriguez
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In general, I like to err on the side of allowing rather than refusing when I can. In this case, Notability would be based on a number of areas that I'm not specifically familiar with - things like who were the great architects of the time, was he more of a "builder" or an "architect", was this a team or individual effort and what part in a team (if it was one) did he play, did he do anything else besides this one building, etc. etc.

I'll be honest, architecture is something I'm slightly aware of, but unfortunately I'm not an expert on everything. Based on what I can tell, he "might" qualify for Notability, but I just don't have enough information to be sure. Since I'm kind of putting him into a gray area, I tend to think we should allow these to be considered Notables unless someone who has more experience in these areas can use criteria like I mentioned above to prove otherwise. If it turns out later that he was only the chief hammer-swinger for the project, had limited input into the design, and never really did much of anything else with his life, then we can re-review him at that point.

Any other input? Notability is generally a consensus based discussion and not a dictatorship, so my vote only counts as one. I would get a tie-breaking vote in cases where things are close, but beyond that, I would definitely appreciate any other thoughts or views.

by Scott Fulkerson G2G Astronaut (1.2m points)

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