Which Maggie Layton is on the 1900 Census

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Fixing Errors I came across a 2 Maggie Laytons. I do not know anything about this family, just found a little puzzle to work on.

 

2 Maggie Laytons are married in St. Clair County, Alabama. I have the census record for one of them in 1900. Trouble is I cannot figure out which one is which.

Can you help me answer the question with proof (I have been to find a grave, I have been to Family Search) possibly through following the rest of the family out and finding an obit somewhere which shows a relationship between the people on the 1900 census and either of the two women in later years.

If you are unable to answer the question, and just want to share insights, please mark your post as "COMMENT' by clicking the appropriate box instead of letting it post as an answer.

Thanks.

PS both Maggie's have been attached to the family in question.
WikiTree profile: Maggie Bullocks
asked in Genealogy Help by Lance Martin G2G6 Mach 6 (67.2k points)

3 Answers

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Best answer

Following up on a comment I made earlier.

There is sufficient indirect evidence to conclude that the Maggie that married Bice is the correct Maggie.  Further research is required to determine whether or not she also was married to Bullock.

Much of the confusion in this case is caused by what appears to be a misattribution of a first name, "Fannie," to Maggie's mother in the 1900 Census.

However the following data supports that Fannie's parents were Dosia England and Thomas A. Layton and that is the family represented on the 1900 Census.

1.  Alabama Death Record for Maggie Bice indicating parents Thomas Layton and Dosie England

"Alabama Deaths, 1908-1974," database, FamilySearch(https://familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:JKQQ-4VY : 27 November 2014), Maggie Bice, 05 Apr 1958; citing reference cn 10501, Department of Health, Montgomery; FHL microfilm 1,908,929.

2.  1880 Census for Thomas Layton household - with spouse named Docia.

"United States Census, 1880," database with images, FamilySearch(https://familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:M4V6-CJD : 11 August 2016), Thomas A Laton, Greensport, St Clair, Alabama, United States; citing enumeration district ED 121, sheet 155D, NARA microfilm publication T9 (Washington D.C.: National Archives and Records Administration, n.d.), roll 0031; FHL microfilm 1,254,031.

3.  1900 Census for Thomas Layton household indicating he and spouse have been married for 31 years and including Maggie age 17.

"United States Census, 1900," database with images, FamilySearch(https://familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:M9DB-63G : accessed 24 July 2017), Maggie Laten in household of Thomas Laten, Precinct 1 Ashville Ashville town, St. Clair, Alabama, United States; citing enumeration district (ED) 99, sheet 4B, family 74, NARA microfilm publication T623 (Washington, D.C.: National Archives and Records Administration, 1972.); FHL microfilm 1,240,038.

4. 1910 Census for Thomas Layton household - with spouse "named Dashia".

"United States Census, 1910," database with images, FamilySearch(https://familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:MKW3-W95 : accessed 24 July 2017), Dashia Layton in household of Thomas A Layton, Ashville, St Clair, Alabama, United States; citing enumeration district (ED) ED 114, sheet 12A, family 216, NARA microfilm publication T624 (Washington D.C.: National Archives and Records Administration, 1982), roll 32; FHL microfilm 1,374,045.

Concluding that Thomas has one wife, named "Dosha," for the entire period is reasonable.  And with that conclusion, the death certificate for Maggie Bice establishes her as the daughter within this family.

answered by JT Strong G2G6 Mach 6 (60.1k points)
selected by Lance Martin
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Maggie Laton

mentioned in the record of Warren Bullock and Maggie Laton

Name Warren Bullock
Gender Male
Event Type Marriage
Event Date 24 Mar 1901
Event Place St. Clair, Alabama, United States
Event Place (Original) Saint Clair, Alabama
Spouse's Name Maggie Laton
Spouse's Gender Female

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Alabama County Marriages, 1809-1950

Image Number 00079
GS Film Number 1035445
Digital Folder Number 007316692

Citing this Record

"Alabama County Marriages, 1809-1950," database with images, FamilySearch(https://familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:QKZS-9XSY : 21 July 2015), Warren Bullock and Maggie Laton, 24 Mar 1901; citing St. Clair, Alabama, United States, county courthouses, Alabama; FHL microfilm 1,035,445.

answered by Frank Gill G2G Astronaut (1.7m points)
Found only one Maggie Laten born Aug 1883 who married 24 Mar 1901.
Hi frank,

 

I would appreciate if you paid attention to what you are doing when you post a response regarding questions. By posting your helpful comments as answers rather than comments it appears to people that the actual question has been answered when in fact it has not. Please post your links which do not answer the question as comments in the future rather than answers
It looked correct to me. I did not find another Maggie Laton at familysearch.org . Can you share what you have on the other Maggie Laton for comparison purposes?

It was kind of expected that you would make your post and I tried to avoid against it with this caveat in the question (I was thinking of you when I wrote that though I had forgotten who you were I remembered when I saw your response.)

If you are unable to answer the question, and just want to share insights, please mark your post as "COMMENT' by clicking the appropriate box instead of letting it post as an answer.
 

In the original posted question you will find a link to the profile of Maggie Bullocks who this question relates to. On her page you will see the two records which you found and reposted. The question was not concerning finding those items, but identifying the person that those items relate to. 

There are two possible Maggie Laytons that the census record could be referring to. 

The question is which Maggie Layton is in that census record. 

If you visit the profiles you will see the research all laid out for you. 

 

Second, the reason it I 'downvoted' the answer is it is not helpful as laid out in this https://www.wikitree.com/g2g/430348/voting-down-and-flagging-time-to-stop?show=430348#q430348 G2G forum thread.

As I assume you and I both do, a lot of researchers will go to the G2G forum and look for unanswered questions to work on, by clicking on the unanswered tab at the top. By adding your comment as an answer, you have thereby removed my question from this list which is problematic as it is still a question and you really have provided no useable new information. 

If you could go back and change your answers to comments that would be appreciated. 

Does that make sense?

 

 

 

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Maggie Laten

United States Census, 1900

Name Maggie Laten
Event Type Census
Event Year 1900
Event Place Precinct 1 Ashville Ashville town, St. Clair, Alabama, United States
Gender Female
Age 17
Marital Status Single
Race White
Race (Original) W
Relationship to Head of Household Daughter
Relationship to Head of Household (Original) Daughter
Birth Date Aug 1883
Birthplace Alabama
Father's Birthplace Alabama
Mother's Birthplace Alabama

Household

Role

Sex

Age

Birthplace

Thomas Laten Head M 51 Alabama
Fannie Laten Wife F 45 Alabama
Pleas Laten Son M 18 Alabama
Maggie Laten Daughter F 17 Alabama
Mollie Laten Daughter F 11 Alabama
Ross Laten Son M 9 Alabama
Viola Laten Daughter F 8 Alabama
Dault Laten Son M 5 Alabama
Frank Byers Boarder M   Alabama

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United States Census, 1900

District 99
Sheet Number and Letter 4B
Household ID 74
Line Number 95
Affiliate Name The U.S. National Archives and Records Administration (NARA)
Affiliate Publication Number T623
GS Film Number 1240038
Digital Folder Number 004120010
Image Number 00570

Citing this Record

"United States Census, 1900," database with images, FamilySearch(https://familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:M9DB-63G : accessed 24 July 2017), Maggie Laten in household of Thomas Laten, Precinct 1 Ashville Ashville town, St. Clair, Alabama, United States; citing enumeration district (ED) 99, sheet 4B, family 74, NARA microfilm publication T623 (Washington, D.C.: National Archives and Records Administration, 1972.); FHL microfilm 1,240,038.

answered by Frank Gill G2G Astronaut (1.7m points)
Between the two Maggies, the one married to Bice, cannot be eliminated.

Based on Alabama death records and earlier censuses, it can be established that Maggie Bice is the daughter of Thomas Anderson Layton and Dosha England.  She had siblings, Julia R., Mary E., Ross, Dolphus, James D.   

Assuming that the profile you linked is fairly complete, there seems to be some overlap of siblings, notably Ross and Dolphus/Dault[?]  This family might be larger than what has already been identified and Thomas Anderson Layton may have been married twice.  Death records indicate that the mother's given name is Dosha. So, Thomas may have been married twice.

Maggie Bice

Alabama Deaths

Name Maggie Bice
Event Date 05 Apr 1958
Event Place Jasper, Walker, Alabama
Gender Female
Age (Original) 72y
Birth Year (Estimated) 1886
Father's Name Tom Layton
Mother's Name Dosie England
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Alabama Deaths, 1908-1974

GS Film number 1908929
Reference ID cn 10501

Citing this Record

"Alabama Deaths, 1908-1974," database, FamilySearch (https://familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:JKQQ-4VY : 27 November 2014), Maggie Bice, 05 Apr 1958; citing reference cn 10501, Department of Health, Montgomery; FHL microfilm 1,908,929.

This comment here is a good start to answering the question, but does not prove anything yet as the mother is listed as Dosie and the census says Fanny.

 

Thanks for your help.
Thanks JT. I did some more research and filled out the trees and it looks like Maggie Bice is confirmed.

However, now I am wondering if there actually are two different Maggies or "Miss Maggie" was misleading and she actually already had a few kids with a previous husband.
I posted the proof about the same time your comment came through.

I am looking into the issue that you raised.  To start, need to find Maggie Bice in 1910 and 1920 to see if she has any children born before the marriage to Bice.

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