Was Elizabeth, Wife of Richard Cutter of Cambridge, a daughter of Robert Williams of Roxbury? [closed]

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While researching PGM profile Robert Williams-1585, I discovered well researched information from a TAG article that indicate that Elizabeth Williams-2300, Robert's daughter, did not marry Richard Cutter (PGM profile Cutter-60).

Marsha Hoffman Rising, in her article in "The American Genealogist" (TAG) states that the marriage information is unreliable, finding no record of the marriage between Elizabeth Williams and Richard Cutter.  Furthermore, Rising states that Elizabeth would have been 15 years old at the time of the marriage when the usual age at that time was about 23. 

Additionally, in this article, Rising refutes the idea that Elizabeth Williams married a man named Thomas Robinson.

See here for TAG article by Rising:

https://www.americanancestors.org/databases/american-genealogist-the/image/?pageName=292&volumeId=13222&rId=24783450 subscription needed.

Rising's summary is on p. 296 where she states, "In summary, Elizabeth, daughter of Robert Williams, is not an appropriate candidate to be the wife of Richard Cutter."

Perhaps proceeding by renaming Richard Cutter's wife "Elizabeth Unknown" would be the best thing to do.  Then all of the Cutter children will. remain attached to Richard and his unknown wife named Elizabeth. 

A new profile will need to be made for Robert Williams daughter, Elizabeth. 

I would like to have responses from the managers of these profiles.  thank you. 

 

 

 

WikiTree profile: Elizabeth Cutter
closed with the note: resolved.  profiles corrected.
in Genealogy Help by Cheryl Skordahl G2G6 Pilot (207k points)
closed by Cheryl Skordahl

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Thanks for posting this Cheryl!  I agree that we need to fix our tree.
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Thanks Claire -

In order for the tree to be fixed, I need help from a PM of Williams 2300 - to make her LNAB "Unknown" please.

I left a note in the comment section of the profile, so I hope a PM will respond.

I updated the profile, adding source with link to the most recent research at American Ancestors (TAG V. 74), creating a "disputed LNAB" section in bio, and adding a "research notes" section, since American Ancestors is a subscription site.
Thank you Cheryl!
You're welcome, Claire.  My pleasure to make EikiTree a more accurate site.
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Elizabeth Williams Cutter

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Name Elizabeth Williams Cutter
Maiden Name Williams
Event Type Burial
Event Date 1662
Event Place Cambridge, Middlesex, Massachusetts, United States of America
Photograph Included Y
Death Date 05 Mar 1662
Affiliate Record Identifier 20821883
Cemetery Old Burying Ground

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"Find A Grave Index," database, FamilySearch (https://familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:QVVK-KR8D : 11 July 2016), Elizabeth Williams Cutter, 1662; Burial, Cambridge, Middlesex, Massachusetts, United States of America, Old Burying Ground; citing record ID 20821883, Find a Grave, http://www.findagrave.com.

by Frank Gill G2G Astronaut (2.1m points)
Frank, in this case, FAG does not help us. There's no comparison in quality to the evidence analysis done and published thru the TAG article. Unfortunately, in this case, the FAG profile is no better than another unsourced family tree.
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Elizabeth Williams Cutter

Birth:  1620, England
Death:  Mar. 5, 1662
Cambridge
Middlesex County
Massachusetts, USA
image
HERE LYES YE BODY OF
ELIZABETH CUTTER WIFE TO
RICHARD CUTTER AGED
ABOUT 42 YEARS DIED
MARCH 5 1662 
 
Family links: 
 Parents:
  Robert Williams (1608 - 1693)
  Elizabeth Stalham Williams (1597 - 1674)
 
 Spouse:
  Richard Cutter (1621 - 1693)*
 
 Children:
  Elizabeth Cutter Robinson (1643 - 1692)*
  William Cutter (1649 - 1723)*
  Gershom Cutter (1652 - 1738)*
  Mary Cutter Sanger (1657 - 1711)*
 
 Siblings:
  Elizabeth Williams Cutter (1620 - 1662)
  Edward Williams (1627 - 1688)*
  Deborah Williams Turner (1628 - 1676)*
  Mary Williams Wood (1630 - 1670)*
  Samuel Williams (1632 - 1698)*
  John Williams (1635 - 1658)*
  Isaac Williams (1638 - 1708)*
  Stephen Williams (1640 - 1720)*
 
*Calculated relationship
 
Burial:
Old Burying Ground 
Cambridge
Middlesex County
Massachusetts, USA
 
Created by: the moo
Record added: Aug 06, 2007 
Find A Grave Memorial# 20821883
by Frank Gill G2G Astronaut (2.1m points)
Elizabeth <i>Williams</i> Cutter
Added by: KDx2
 
Elizabeth <i>Williams</i> Cutter
Added by: KDx2
 
Elizabeth <i>Williams</i> Cutter
Added by: Liz L.
 
Hi Frank,  thanks for posting.

The author of the TAG article recognizes and acknowledges that there is a gravestone for Elizabeth Cutter.  She argues, however, that Elizabeth Cutter's maiden name was not Williams, that Richard Cutter's wife was not Elizabeth Williams the oldest daughter of Robert Williams.

There are several books that claim that Cutter's wife was Elizabeth Williams, so that would be where the author of the Find A Grave biography got his/her information.  Information which Rising claims is not accurate.

On p. 298, at the end of the TAG article I have been referring to, the author Marsha Hoffman Rising thanks Robert Charles Anderson, Jane Bramwell,  Patricia Law Hatcher, and Clifford L. Stott for their assistance with this article.  These are all well-known, prominent genealogists of today.

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