Seeking family of John (Jean Baptiste) Ross and Marguerite (Maggie) Metivier

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Hey!

I have a bit of a puzzle here and I'm hoping someone can help me solve it. I'm looking for the family of Georgianna Ross. I have her mother, Marguerite "Maggie" Metivier thanks to my grandmother's book and information I found on FamilySearch. Then there's her dad, John Ross. or Jean Baptiste Ross. Several places say he was born in Germany. Georgianna's info says he was born in Canada.

 My grandmother's book also listed a John Ross before John Ross as well. I'm thinking she meant "Jean Baptiste". I'm not sure. On FamilySearch, I have five sources for Maggie and two for John. John's parents aren't listed. Other places say his parents were Ross and some lady named Cyr. That's not the case in the book I have. It goes:

Georgianna Ross -> John Ross + Maggie Metivier -> John and Matilda Ross (Nee Blanchard).

It's a bit confusing as Ross is a very common name. All I have to go on is what I have on Georgianna's profile, Her Husband's and her mom's. Any help would be appreciated. Thanks.
WikiTree profile: Georgianna Ross
in Genealogy Help by Chris Ferraiolo G2G6 Pilot (429k points)
retagged by Ellen Smith
The 1880 US Census shows her father as born in Canada and his father, also named John Ross was born in Canada also.
Yep. Just trying to find the dates.

Chris, while I fully understand the sentiment behind how you titled this g2g thread, I encourage you to change it to something like 

Seeking family of John (Jean Baptiste) Ross and Marguerite (Maggie) Metivier

This will help others researching the family find you.

Very well....

Edited. Just wanted to be creative as finding the last name Ross IS a lot like trying to find Smith and Jones. So many people with that last name in the world.
Hey, everyone. What is your take on this gem?

https://www.ancestry.com/genealogy/records/jean-baptiste-ross_45704673

Is this legit? I want to believe. But, at the same time look at the mother. So many kids for the early 1800s. Crazy,

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Georgiana Ross

mentioned in the record of Joseph Laplant and Georgiana Ross

Name Joseph Laplant
Event Type Marriage
Event Date 03 Jun 1895
Event Place , Newburyport, Massachusetts, United States
Gender Male
Age 21
Birth Year (Estimated) 1874
Father's Name George A Laplant
Mother's Name Phebe
Spouse's Name Georgiana Ross
Spouse's Gender Female
Spouse's Age 19
Spouse's Birth Year (Estimated) 1876
Spouse's Father's Name John H. Ross
Spouse's Mother's Name Maggie

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Massachusetts Marriages, 1841-1915

Reference ID vol 451 p 500
GS Film Number 001651242
Digital Folder Number 004332369
Image Number 00512

Citing this Record

"Massachusetts Marriages, 1841-1915," database with images, FamilySearch(https://familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:N47H-M5Q : 17 February 2016), Joseph Laplant and Georgiana Ross, 03 Jun 1895; citing , Newburyport, Massachusetts, United States, State Archives, Boston; FHL microfilm 1,651,242.

by Frank Gill G2G Astronaut (2.2m points)
+5 votes

Marie Georgiana Ross

New Hampshire Birth Records, Early to 1900

Name Marie Georgiana Ross
Birth Date 08 Mar 1876
Birthplace Manchester, Hillsborough, New Hampshire, United States
Father's Name John Ross
Mother's Name Maggie Metivier
Registration Place Manchester, Hillsborough, New Hampshire, United States

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New Hampshire Birth Records, Early to 1900

GS Film number 1001036
Digital Folder Number 4244301
Image Number 03539

Citing this Record

"New Hampshire Birth Records, Early to 1900," database with images, FamilySearch(https://familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:FL5G-C5B : 12 December 2014), Marie Georgiana Ross, 08 Mar 1876; citing Manchester, Hillsborough, New Hampshire, United States, Bureau of Vital Records and Health Statistics, Concord; FHL microfilm 1,001,036.

by Frank Gill G2G Astronaut (2.2m points)

Georgianne Ross

United States Census, 1880

Name Georgianne Ross
Event Type Census
Event Date 1880
Event Place Manchester, Hillsborough, New Hampshire, United States
Gender Female
Age 4
Marital Status Single
Race White
Race (Original) W
Relationship to Head of Household Daughter
Relationship to Head of Household (Original) Dau
Birth Year (Estimated) 1876
Birthplace New Hampshire, United States
Father's Birthplace Canada
Mother's Birthplace Canada
Sheet Letter C
Sheet Number 190
Person Number 5
Volume 1

Household

Role

Sex

Age

Birthplace

John Ross Self M 27 Canada
Maggie Ross Wife F 27 Canada
Nelson Ross Son M 9 New Hampshire, United States
Annie Ross Daughter F 8 New Hampshire, United States
Clara Ross Daughter F 6 New Hampshire, United States
Georgianne Ross Daughter F 4 New Hampshire, United States
Caroline Nobert Other F 24 Canada
John Ross Father M 58 Canada

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United States Census, 1880

District ED 131
Sheet Number and Letter 190C
Household ID 5082023
Affiliate Name The U.S. National Archives and Records Administration (NARA)
Affiliate Publication Number T9
Affiliate Film Number 0763
GS Film Number 1254763
Digital Folder Number 005161401
Image Number 00383

Citing this Record

"United States Census, 1880," database with images, FamilySearch(https://familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:MHRJ-Q32 : 12 August 2016), Georgianne Ross in household of John Ross, Manchester, Hillsborough, New Hampshire, United States; citing enumeration district ED 131, sheet 190C, NARA microfilm publication T9 (Washington D.C.: National Archives and Records Administration, n.d.), roll 0763; FHL microfilm 1,254,763.

I guess I could use math to determine when John was born. This would mean he was born in 1853. Is there anything else? Good find. Thanks!
Do you know what Province, county and or city he was born in?
No I don't, sadly. I found a Jean Baptiste Ross who was born July 17, 1847 in St Colomban de Sherbrooke P.Q. and was married to a Margaret Metivier. His parents were Jean Baptiste Ross and Adele Cyr.  One problem with that. Those are not the names in the book I was talking about. This was on Myheritage and I can't contact the guy who made it for verification. I don't think it's the same guy.
According to the marriage entry in BMS 2000 (http://www.bms2000.org/record/marriage/4398363), Jean Ross, son of Jean Baptiste Ross, and Marguerite Metivier, daughter of Antoine Metivier, married 14 August 1869 at St-Martin-de-Tours parish in Somersworth, New Hampshire.  I'm not sure why they didn't note the names of the mothers.  That still doesn't quite answer the question of exact origins, but hopefully it will be another angle you can use to help solve the puzzle.
Huh. For some reason I can't see the card as I am a visitor. Good info. Interesting angle. I think I saw that wedding date and incorrectly put it in on Ancestry thinking it was the couple I was looking for. It isn't.
BMS 2000 is a fee based site-wanted to include the link in case you had a subscription or wanted to check out the particular entry the next time you are at a genealogy library (and it's good in general to cite specific sources).  I wish you luck in your search.
Thanks. Looks like I am gonna need it. I want to add John Ross's profile here. But, it may have to be bare bones. Name, estimated date of birth and a few sources from Familysearch.

Eh, I'll make it anyway. I've seen more bare bones profiles than that here.
https://www.wikitree.com/index.php?title=Ross-13257

Done. And the 1880 Census says his father was born in 1822
Filled in some stuff thanks to a thread on Ancestry from seventeen years ago. And I found this:
http://wc.rootsweb.ancestry.com/cgi-bin/igm.cgi?op=GET&db=cpross&id=I5

Not sure how to navigate this and find the Rosses I am looking for.
I think I found what I was looking for!
https://www.ancestry.com/genealogy/records/jean-baptiste-ross_45704673

 

I'll look into it in the morning. Thanks go out to everyone who helped!
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Name: Jean Baptiste Ross
Event: Baptême (Baptism)
Baptism Year: 1847
Baptism Location: Sherbrooke, Québec (Quebec)
Place of Worship or Institution: St-Michel

 

 

Source Information

Gabriel Drouin, comp. Drouin Collection. Montreal, Quebec, Canada: Institut Généalogique Drouin.

500px-Photos_Experiments-146.jpg

It looks like his parents were Jean Baptist Ross & Adele Cyr.

by Doug Lockwood G2G Astronaut (2.4m points)
edited by Doug Lockwood
Yeah. That's what I'm getting on the thread I posted last night. Thanks for your help!

familysearch

Jean-Baptiste, son of Jean-Baptiste ROSS et Adèle Cyre (=CYR)

Born 1847-07-17 Sherbrooke

"Québec, registres paroissiaux catholiques, 1621-1979," database with images, FamilySearch (https://familysearch.org/ark:/61903/3:1:3QSQ-G99D-T9MW?cc=1321742&wc=9RL2-923%3A24878101%2C25285901%2C26852803 : 16 July 2014), Sherbrooke > Saint-Michel-de-Sherbrooke > Index 1834-1876 Baptêmes, mariages, sépultures 1834-1847 > image 298 of 310; nos paroisses de Église Catholique, Quebec (Catholic Church parishes, Quebec).

Ahh, Adele Cyr. I looked her up on Ancestry and saw the dozens of kids. Can't make sense of her bio right now as the source was a combination of a ton of trees. I hope we can weed out fact from fiction with her before I add her.

This is what I am referring to: https://www.ancestry.com/genealogy/records/jean-baptiste-ross_45704673

I need to figure that out before I can add her. There's no profile for her on FamilySearch. Which is odd.
Turns out the info is correct. Found her in the census:

 

https://familysearch.org/pal:/MM9.1.1/MFQH-9V5

 

And look. Matilda's the daughter in law. Heh.... Sorry if I annoyed ya with my stubborness. =)
+3 votes

A record worth checking out for Maggie:

500px-Photos_Experiments-147.jpg

 

Name: M Genevieve Metivier
Event: Baptême (Baptism)
Baptism Year: 1850
Baptism Location:
Ste-Luce, Québec (Quebec)
 
 

 

 

Source Information

Gabriel Drouin, comp. Drouin Collection. Montreal, Quebec, Canada: Institut Généalogique Drouin.

by Doug Lockwood G2G Astronaut (2.4m points)
Thanks!

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