Looking for birth dates for Irish great great grandparents, born in Ireland prior to 1851

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Help, I need some insight on this.

I'm trying to find birth dates for my two Irish ancestors, great great grandparents, who immigrated to the U.S. and settled in Iowa around the late 1860's.  They married in Iowa in 1871. They were born on or before 1850.

 

Hickey-1637 - Anastasia Hickey (married name Coleman)

The family has always said she was from County Cork.

The 1900 Federal Census specifies she was born November 1849.

But according to her grandchildren, her birthday was May 1,1851.

Her first name is systematically misspelled in almost all U.S. documents. Examples:

1880 Federal Census - Anna Coleman

1885 State Census - Augusta Coleman

1895 State Census - Auartoded Coleman

1900 Federal Census - Anna S Coleman

1905 State Census - Anustusin Coleman

1910 Federal Census - Anassia Coleman

1915 State Census - Anastasia Coleman

1920 Federal Census - A*T* Coleman

In other documents her first name can be Anastacia, Anastatia.

I'm assuming spelling should be better in Irish baptismal records.

I came up with this:

Anastice Hickey, baptised 5 Dec 1851, County Tipperary (seven months after birth, if she was born May 1st)

Ann Hickey, baptised 14 June 1850, County Cork (seven months after birth if she was born November 1849)

Anastatia Hickey, 25 March 1852, Co. Kilkenny (almost a year after birth, if she was born May 1 1851.)

Anastasia Hickey, baptised 21 April 1850, County Tipperary (six months after birth, if she was born Nov 1849)

Where to go from here? Thanks
WikiTree profile: Anastasia Coleman
in Genealogy Help by C Ryder G2G6 Mach 7 (75.4k points)
retagged by Keith Hathaway
Babies in Catholic church in Ireland were always baptized as the same day of birth or a couple days after.

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My experience with researching Irish ancestors is to locate as much as info as possible in US records. I added link to 1900 census and son Charles delayed birth records says he was baptized at The Cathedral of the Epiphany had its beginnings as St. Mary's Church in 1891. I find there is a good chance you will find info on his older siblings at St Mary's church, perhaps a baptism records will identify where the parents were born. Good luck.
by Sheila x G2G6 Mach 3 (30.4k points)
selected by C Ryder
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If they were catholics, then on findmypast.ie you can access the Irish roman catholic birth, marraige and death records from circa 1800 - 1900. The are held by the NLI (national library of Ireland) and are required to be free under Irish government law. You may have to sent up a free account with findmypast.ie. Then when you have done that go search records A-Z. select Ireland (for irish records only). Then type in the search box 'roman catholic' and you will see options for births, marraiges and deaths. You can now search these databases for free. Good luck

Daithi Mac an Aircin

Cill Droichid

Ireland
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There is no way you can be sure which Anastasia Colmen Hickey is yours in Ireland without furthering your research in the states. You have a good start but you need to do more on her. If they were Irish Catholics in a certain place, you need to gather all their children's baptismal records. From doing so, you will learn if there were other Hickeys and Colemans relations living nearby and work on their families. Go to the graveyards of all of them and study family structure of who is in the plots; get all the death records and obituaries of everyone. Many times obituaries state their home village. ESPECIALLY get their marriage record which will list their parents. When you get the parents' name, that could but not guaranteed, narrow down the pool of Anatasia Colemans in Irish records.
by Maggie N. G2G6 Pilot (808k points)
Maggie, your answer on this has set me straight. Of course I will never figure out who my Irish ancestors were given the numerous homonyms.  I followed up on your suggestion to research parish in the States, by calling then emailing an archive service at the diocese. No answer yet. Couldn't get through to the parish, security blocked the call. I live in France, maybe that's why. Victor Hugo must be on the index. I'll try snail mail but wonder who I should write to exactly.  Any suggestions? Thank you.

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