Marriage and maiden names two Brooks wives

Question

Eliza Brooks born 1855 brother Jonathan born 1857 Wilnecote Birmingham Warwickshire England Father Thomas Brooks,born Northampton, Northamptonshire 1818 mothers name Elizabeth ? she was born 1813 in Birmingham Warwickshire England. Where were her parents married and when? Thomas born 1818 was a Baptist minister who had published several books his parents were Thomas and Eliza  I have no information on them but I believe he came from a long line of gentlemen that were in the ministry so the family may have shifted around a bit before their children grew up and went to Australia with the grandchildren.

Comments

Whilst the listings of Thomas Brooks and his two wives are shown below, I have not been able to trace the existence of Eliza & Jonathan, either births (1855 & 1857) or census records. Is their any evidence?

Answer 1

This is the 1871 Census for Thomas the Baptist Minister:

Name: Thomas Brooks

Age: 52

Estimated birth year: abt 1819

Relation: Head

Spouse's Name: Elizabeth Brooks

Gender: Male

Where born: Northampton

Civil Parish: St Peter

Town: Wallingford

County/Island: Berkshire

Country: England

Registration district: Wallingford

Sub-registration district: Wallingford

ED, institution, or vessel: 3

Household schedule number: 87

Piece: 1274

Folio: 94

Page Number: 14

Household Members:

Name Age

Thomas Brooks 52

Elizabeth Brooks 38

Elizabeth Brooks 8 Months

Esther Brooks 48

Hannah King 16

Answer 2

The 1861 Census, for him with his first wife, born in Birmingham: 

Name:	Thomas Brooks
Age:	42
Estimated birth year:	1819
Relation:	Head
Spouse's Name:	Elizabeth Brooks
Gender:	Male
Where born:	Northamptonshire, England
Civil Parish:	Bourton on the Water
County/Island:	Gloucestershire
Country:	England
Street address: Occupation: Condition as to marriage:	View image
Registration district:	Stow On The Wold
Sub-registration district:	Bourton on the Water
ED, institution, or vessel:	1
Neighbors:	View others on page
Household schedule number:	168
Piece:	1789
Folio:	17
Page Number:	28
Household Members:	Name Age Thomas Brooks 42 Elizabeth Brooks 47

Answer 3

Now the 1851 Census, but note no children:

Name:Thomas BrooksAge:32Estimated birth year:abt 1819Relation:HeadSpouse's Name:Elizabeth BrooksGender:MaleWhere born:Northamptonshire, EnglandCivil Parish:RoadeEcclesiastical parish:PeterboroughPhillimore Ecclesiastical Parish Maps:

View related Ecclesiastical Parish

County/Island:NorthamptonshireCountry:England

Street address:

Occupation:

Condition as to marriage:

Disability:

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Registration district:HardingstoneSub-registration district:BrafieldED, institution, or vessel:2Neighbors:View others on pageHousehold schedule number:138Piece:1738Folio:257Page Number:35Household Members:

Name	Age
Thomas Brooks	32
Elizabeth Brooks	37

Comments

Yes a small census taken in the area called Warwickshire Ancestors Project of Roade showed one child. The other one I got through imputing her parents into a list that was connected somehow. I also had contact in the past with a relative in Birmingham who didn't appear to like the Australian branch of the family very much, but did send copies of  certificates which I seem to have lost off the computer in 2004 when my son upgraded it and then he overwrote the rewritable disk and gave it to a friend with games on.
a few weeks ago I happened to be in the library the day after the group in Birmingham met for historical research but didn't realize this sort of research went on in the area. However we had arrived tired and grumpy having walked to the wrong hotel which was a couple of miles away from the bus station and had to get a taxi to the correct hotel that had the same name but was situated near the train station. We discovered next day that we were then handy to all the facilities for research and sightseeing and I managed to photograph early family information from drawers in the library family history area that will verify information about past ancestors.

Answer 4

Elizabeth Andrews, born 6 August 1813, Birmingham,  the daughter of John Andrews & Hannah (https://familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:J33Y-9J3) married Thomas Brooks 30 March 1841, Birmingham, St. Martin. ( https://familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:V5VK-KCR)

Answer 5

Thomas's second marriage was to Elizabeth Jennings and was registered in 1869, in Kingsclere, Hampshire:

Surname	First name(s)		District	Vol	Page
Marriages Sep 1869   (>99%)
Brooks	Thomas		Kingsclere	2c	402
Jennings	Elizabeth		Kingsclere	2c	402

Comments

Great work thank you

 

Isn't it odd how men marry wives with the same name as their mothers.

I wonder if when they had affairs they also did this save getting into trouble now they just call everyone dear.

Thank you well done I am really delighted.