Mr and Mrs. John Hummel, Golden, CO

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I hope I have this in the right category.  

In honesty, I don't know if this is a living person; I am trying to discern who this person is and how he knew my grandparents.

In 1972 Mr. and Mrs. John Hummel were living in Golden, CO.  They sent my grandparents, life-long residents of NJ, a Christmas card from an address on Braun Dr. in Golden, CO.  I still have the envelope, but I don't have the card, unfortunately.

My grandmother was a lifelong resident of NJ and she didn't leave the state as far as I know.  She may have gone to PA to visit her husband once in a while when he worked there.during the 1950s.  It is also possible that this is how my grandpa met the Hummels.

My grandpa served in the military and I believe he served in the 69th Infantry.  He also could have met Mr. Hummel through that.  

Finally, I don't know my grandparents cousins.  I know that my grandfather's parents were Metzner and Sauer, both of Germany.  I know they both came to the US in the 1880s but I know nothing of their families.  Mr. Hummel or his wife could definitely be one of my grandpa's cousins.  My grandmother was a Wagner and a Roth.  Her dad emigrated from Germany while her mom' was NJ born, from parents who emigrated from Germany.

If this couple was friends with my grandparents, then all involved are deceased and hopefully descendants are out there that will recognize the address.

A complete address is available on the profile.

I have long been wanting to solve this mystery; this could potentially mean more relatives, but more importantly it could be a breakthrough to learning more about my great-grandparents families.  Both my parents are deceased so they can't help.

I deeply appreciate any help for this.
WikiTree profile: John Hummel
in Genealogy Help by Heidi Nead G2G6 (6.9k points)

Clues

 

Hilde Hummel

 in the U.S. City Directories, 1822-1995

VIEWU.S. City Directories, 1822-1995

      Name: Hilde Hummel
      Gender: Female
      Residence Year: 1970
      Residence Place: Denver, Colorado
      Spouse: John Hummel
      Publication Title: Polk's Denver Suburban Directory, 1970

      Source Information

      Ancestry.com. U.S. City Directories, 1822-1995 [database on-line]. Provo, UT, USA: Ancestry.com Operations, Inc., 2011.

       

      Hilda Hummel

       in the 1940 United States Federal Census

      VIEW1940 United States Federal Census

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        Name: Hilda Hummel
        Respondent: Yes
        Age: 37
        Estimated birth year: abt 1903
        Gender: Female
        Race: White
        Birthplace: Germany
        Marital Status: Married
        Relation to Head of House: Wife
        Home in 1940: New York, Kings, New York
        Map of Home in 1940: View Map
        Street: De Kalb Avenue
        House Number: 1283
        Inferred Residence in 1935: New York, Kings, New York
        Residence in 1935: Same Place
        Citizenship: Having first papers
        Sheet Number: 4A
        Attended School or College: No
        Highest Grade Completed: Elementary school, 8th grade
        Weeks Worked in 1939: 0
        Income: 0
        Income Other Sources: No
        Neighbors: View others on page
        Household Members:
        Name Age
        John Hummel 35
        Hilda Hummel 37
        Vivian Hummel 2

        Source Citation

        Year: 1940; Census Place: New York, Kings, New York; Roll: T627_2607; Page: 4A; Enumeration District: 24-2339

         

         

        Hilda Hummel

          Name: Hilda Hummel
          SSN: 093-05-9043
          Last Residence:

          80033 Wheat Ridge, Jefferson, Colorado, USA

          BORN: 25 Apr 1902
          Died: 22 Mar 1990
          State (Year) SSN issued: New York (Before 1951)

          Source Citation

          Number: 093-05-9043; Issue State: New York; Issue Date: Before 1951

          Source Information

          Ancestry.com. U.S., Social Security Death Index, 1935-2014 [database on-line]. Provo, UT, USA: Ancestry.com Operations Inc, 2011.

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          Hilde Schaaf

           in the New York, Passenger Lists, 1820-1957

          VIEWNew York, Passenger Lists, 1820-1957

            Name: Hilde Schaaf
            Arrival Date: 1 Nov 1926
            Birth Date: abt 1902
            Birth Location: Germany
            Birth Location Other: neckarau
            Age: 24
            Gender: Female
            Ethnicity/ Nationality: German
            Port of Departure: Hamburg, Germany
            Port of Arrival: New York, New York
            Ship Name: Deutschland
            Search Ship Database: Search for the Deutschland in the 'Passenger Ships and Images' database
              Search for the departure in Hamburg Passenger Lists

            Source Citation

            Year: 1926; Arrival: New York, New York; Microfilm Serial: T715, 1897-1957; Microfilm Roll: Roll 3957; Line: 20; Page Number: 102

            Source Information

            Ancestry.com. New York, Passenger Lists, 1820-1957 [database on-line]. Provo, UT, USA: Ancestry.com Operations, Inc., 2010.

            Original data:

            Passenger Lists of Vessels Arriving at New York, New York, 1820-1897. Microfilm Publication M237, 675 rolls. NAI: 6256867. Records of the U.S. Customs Service, Record Group 36. National Archives at Washington, D.C.

            Passenger and Crew Lists of Vessels Arriving at New York, New York, 1897-1957. Microfilm Publication T715, 8892 rolls. NAI: 300346. Records of the Immigration and Naturalization Service; National Archives at Washington, D.C.

            Supplemental Manifests of Alien Passengers and Crew Members Who Arrived on Vessels at New York, New York, Who Were Inspected for Admission, and Related Index, compiled 1887-1952. Microfilm Publication A3461, 21 rolls. NAI: 3887372. RG 85, Records of the Immigration and Naturalization Service, 1787-2004; Records of the Immigration and Naturalization Service; National Archives, Washington, D.C.

            Index to Alien Crewmen Who Were Discharged or Who Deserted at New York, New York, May 1917-Nov. 1957.Microfilm Publication A3417. NAI: 4497925. National Archives at Washington, D.C.

            Passenger Lists, 1962-1972, and Crew Lists, 1943-1972, of Vessels Arriving at Oswego, New York. Microfilm Publication A3426. NAI: 4441521. National Archives at Washington, D.C.

             

             

            Clues only !

            HILDA SCHAAF was born on April 25, 1902, in Neckarau, Baden-W├╝rttemberg, Germany, her father, (JOHANN), was 24, and her mother, ANNA SCHERER, was 26. She had one daughter with JOHN HUMMEL. She died on March 22, 1990, in Wheat Ridge, Colorado, at the age of 87.

            (1930 census Hilda was single. 1940 she was married to John)

            Thank you, Eddie!
            Thank you for all the information you have shared, Eddie!
            Thank you all so very much for your help.  It was invaluable in helping me solve this mystery.  It looks like John Hummel and Hilda Schaaf are connected to the side of aunt, the wife of my mom's twin brother.

            Hilda Schaaf traveled twice to the US, at the least.  The first time was 1922, with Philip Zeilfelder.  I believe he was a brother of my aunt's father.  Hilda and Philip both had the same contact:  an uncle named Philip Schinnagel.

            Thus, Hilda is my ancestral relative by marriage.

            Thank you again for helping me to solve this mystery!

            Heidi

            2 Answers

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            John Hummel

            United States Public Records

            Name John Hummel
            Residence Date 01 Jan 1995-01 Jan 1998
            Residence Place Golden, Colorado, United States
            Birth Date 15 Mar 1905
            Address Golden, Colorado 80401
            Record Number 795800556
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            United States Public Records, 1970-2009

            Citing this Record

            "United States Public Records, 1970-2009," database, FamilySearch(https://familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:QJJW-BHVR : 16 May 2014), John Hummel, Residence, Golden, Colorado, United States; a third party aggregator of publicly available information.

            by Frank Gill G2G Astronaut (2.2m points)
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            John Hummel

            United States Social Security Death Index

            Age 95
            Given Name John
            Surname Hummel
            Birth Date 05 Mar 1905
            State New York
            Last Place of Residence Jefferson, Colorado
            Previous Residence Postal Code 80033
            Event Date 07 Jun 2000
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            United States Social Security Death Index

            Citing this Record

            "United States Social Security Death Index," database, FamilySearch(https://familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:JTBD-22S : 20 May 2014), John Hummel, 07 Jun 2000; citing U.S. Social Security Administration, Death Master File, database (Alexandria, Virginia: National Technical Information Service, ongoing).

            by Frank Gill G2G Astronaut (2.2m points)

            John Hummel

            United States Census, 1930

            Name John Hummel
            Event Type Census
            Event Date 1930
            Event Place Niagara Falls, Niagara, New York, United States
            Gender Male
            Age 25
            Marital Status Married
            Race White
            Race (Original) White
            Relationship to Head of Household Head
            Relationship to Head of Household (Original) Head
            Birth Year (Estimated) 1905
            Birthplace New York
            Father's Birthplace Germany
            Mother's Birthplace France
            Sheet Letter A
            Sheet Number 13

            Household

            Role

            Sex

            Age

            Birthplace

            John Hummel Head M 25 New York
            Jean Hummel Wife F 23 New York

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            United States Census, 1930

            District ED 53
            Sheet Number and Letter 13A
            Household ID 249
            Line Number 18
            Affiliate Name The U.S. National Archives and Records Administration (NARA)
            Affiliate Publication Number T626
            Affiliate Film Number 1618
            GS Film Number 2341352
            Digital Folder Number 004952205
            Image Number 00430

            Citing this Record

            "United States Census, 1930," database with images, FamilySearch(https://familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:X4RS-Q9X : accessed 20 August 2017), John Hummel, Niagara Falls, Niagara, New York, United States; citing enumeration district (ED) ED 53, sheet 13A, line 18, family 249, NARA microfilm publication T626 (Washington D.C.: National Archives and Records Administration, 2002), roll 1618; FHL microfilm 2,341,352.

            Thank you for all the information, Frank.  I will see what happens with the number.

            I have my suspicions that the SSDI you shared could be his.

            Heidi
            I wanted to update this.  I don't remember if her maiden name was Schaaf, but Hilda was the aunt of my aunt Bette.  I think Hilda was a sibling of my aunt Bette's dad.  Thanks so much for your input!

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