Did the 8 Magna Carta Surety Barons listed not having descendants have them ??

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I'm wondering if the 8 Barons listed without Descendants on the Surety list really had no descendants because I ran the relationship connector and it said Richard Percy is my 25th great grandfather threw Margret Mowbry leading to Edward Thomas Garrett I believe then back to me .. Garrett family Owsley ...Poyntz..Sydenham.. Berkeley.. Constable.. Gascoigne.. Mowbrey and Percy.. I also ran the other 7 ..related to all but one ..most being uncles or cousins..  It says also I'm relate to most of the surety barons either uncles cousins or great grandfathers like it says William Albini is my 27th great grandfather... Can this all be true and were all the barons themselves somehow mostly close relations ????
in Genealogy Help by Rebecca Herrin G2G1 (1.7k points)
edited by Rebecca Herrin
Welcome to internet genealogy, where, if a line isn't given by the best modern books, we just dig it out of an old book.  Because all sources are true, aren't they.

Yes, the aristos were mostly interrelated.

You'll get better results starting higher up the tree.  You have at least 3 direct descents from Malet, but owing to a quirk of the algorithm, you're being shown as a 2nd cousin instead.
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I am a direct descendant of all the magna carta barons

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Sureties without known descendants

past four generations:

  • William de Forz, titular Earl of Aumale
  • William de Hardell, Mayor of London
  • Geoffrey de Mandeville, Earl of Essex
  • William Marshal the Younger (later Earl of Pembroke)
  • Roger de Montbegon
  • Richard de Mountfichet
  • Richard de Percy
  • Eustace de Vescy

Richard de Percy had 2 sons with Alice Neville but descendants died out.

That's they key, NO KNOWN.....PAST FOUR GENERATIONS. 

Some inter-marrying occurred:

Hugh Bigod m. Maude Marshal, her brother was an MCB

Gilbert de Clare m. Isabel Marshal, sister of Maude above

John de Lacy m. Margaret de Quincy, grand daughter of Saher de Quincy

those are just what I can recall, hope this helps

Ellen

by Ellen Myers G2G4 (4.2k points)

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