Out of almost 1,000,000 males who took the FTDNA Y-DNA test I don't have a single match.

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My haplogroup is C-M216.  Apparently C is pretty rare, in the US only about 2% of native Americans carry the C haplogroup and my results don't show any Native American.  Are there any sites who do Y-DNA tests, besides these

  1. Y-chromosome haplogroup: C-M216
  2. Number of markers that were tested: 67
  3. Ysearch IDQZTNW
  4. Family Tree DNA kit number: 607256
  5. Gedmatch

where I could post my results to see if I can get any hits?  I would appreciate any and all suggestions.

in Genealogy Help by Mark Turner G2G Crew (920 points)
edited by Ellen Smith
I just have to say wow!  Are you saying you got no DNA matches at all or just through the Y-DNA?

I wish I had some recommendations for you...

4 Answers

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The kind of statistical distribution you'd expect would be a lot like surnames in phone directories.  A small number of very common types, and a large number of unique or rare types that hang on by a thread for a while and eventually become extinct.

I don't have any numbers but I wouldn't be surprised if 5-10% of the male population have very rare yDNA.
by Living Horace G2G6 Pilot (633k points)
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My suggestion would be that you should join these two facebook groups and see if anyone there can give you good advice:

  • Genetic Genealogy Tips & Techniques
  • ISOGG
Many of the people doing serious research and innovative work on genetic genealogy are members of those groups.
by Lynda Crackett G2G6 Pilot (673k points)
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Mark Turner, my mother's maiden name was Turner and born in Columbus, Ind. Her parents were Charles and Opal (Kennedy) Turner.

I also did a Y-37 DNA that was good at finding my Haplogroup I-M253 that is of Danish origin 2300 bc. It was also helpful in establishing a migratory pattern from Denmark, to Normandy, to England and confirmed my lineage to Samuel Marsh who immigrated to New England in 1641.

It strictly follows the male line and it goes back further than the DNA test for both make and female that is typically good for 2 - 5 generations at best but includes the female lines which will be different for every generation.

I get FTDNA matches all the time with separations from 0 to 5 and I will often send email messages to some, but not all. Rarely have I had a response or when I did they would typically tell me they could not find my family line in their tree.

Then again, most had very few generations in their tree with a couple hundred people at best. I presently have over 5,000 family members in my tree and I am nowhere near finished. It depends on how far back one wants to go. I have found more on face book after I started a group page " ancestors of Immigrant Samuel Marsh, 1641".

I have logged my tree on Ancestry.com and have my GEDCOM file to FamilyTree, WikiTree, My heritage and Geni, for doing research.

I also did the Ancestry DNA that takes into account both X & Y. Ancestry will also send links of possible 3rd or 4th cousins, but again, most I contacted were basically noticed to Ancestry and could t find me in their limited tree. Not until.

The DNA tests are not good at giving you specific people who are related especially since most people have not taken a DNA test themselves. Untill it gets to the point where a larger segment of society actually puts a swab to their cheek, don't expect the DNA tests to provide an abundance of relatives. Unfortunately, you will have to continue building your tree and trying to contact relatives as you go.

The other thing is your lineage. Of doing a mtadna test the results will attempt to reflect your lineage such as mine would say Irish, French German, etc..etc with a dozen or so having differing degrees of each based on data that contains DNA from all of the women as well and only going back so far.

Of you do a strictly Y-DNA as you have done... It will strictly follow your make line that never changed and it can trace your line much further back. And if you are lucky enough to be connected to an established "Haplogroup" such as in your case, as well as mine, then WE have a more difinative DANA that provides us with a more destiny lineage.

My Haplogroup identifies my Haplogroup that goes back 2300bc to the Jutland Peninsula in Denmark. Which means that I was Scandanavian and a Viking during the 9th to 11th Centuries, out reflects a migratory pattern to Normandy, England and then here.  Of my DNA test went back say to the 14th century, it would imply that I am Irish or English or German. Which is not misleading because my ancestors actually did move and live in these places.
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Crikey, I though my haplogroup was rare. YFull testers have the C origin at 65,900 years with MRCA at 48,300 years.  About 90 testers not from published studies presumably out of the only 400 members of the C haplogroup project at FTDNA.  If nothing else please do a BigY and upload to YFull, hopefully you will find a related Y family somewhat closer to the present than 48,000 year ago.
by Matt Kitching G2G2 (2.2k points)

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