I'm looking for a ship, a sea ship that I can not see

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In Sir Oswald Mosley's family memoirs it makes mention of the fact that William was lost at sea travelling to you guys in the States. So far I haven't been able to find anything to verify this (such as how old was he, the name of the vessel he was travelling on, when it happened)
But having said that information is just as scarce for his older two brothers...

WikiTree profile: William Mosley
in Genealogy Help by Richard Shelley G2G6 Pilot (243k points)
retagged by Ellen Smith

Dunno 

 Genealogical Sketch of One Branch of the Moseley Family

Edward Strong Moseley

 

- January 1, 1878

Newburyport Herald Office

 

- Publisher

While thinking of a decent Japanese proverb, I think the number one step is to ascertain the date of birth of William, Nicholas and Edward. After that [as I'm writing about this - census records come to mind, although I have no idea how to go about that] and then go from there.

Going back to the source you've linked - done a brief skim read - going to try to find the time to have a deeper more in-depth analysis at a later date
The Complete Baronetage, states that John Parker Mosley, born 1732 was the 1st son and heir of Nicholas Mosley, and given Nicholas died in March 1734 that doesn't give much time for another three sons to be born.  See here https://archive.org/stream/completebaroneta05coka#page/215/mode/1up

I'm wondering if the dates are correct, or Sir Oswald in his memoirs has got something wrong?

I had indeed noticed that. What I do know is that someone is incorrect, I don't know who but someone is. The question is if John lied to his grandson about his information then how much therefore of the book would therefore be treated as fiction? That then throws doubt on other people who have drawn on the book as a reference for their own discussions (example being with E. S. Moseley/Mosley). 

On the other hand if the relay of information between John and Oswald is correct, then family outsider is responsible for the inaccurate information distribution?? Quite a conundrum there!

Please treat Sir Oswald's Memoirs as highly suspect and with a level of low surety. I have been working on the Moseleys from 1536 down the lines and I am convinced we must start this line at Edward Moseley=Margaret Elcock. Further back than that is most likely pure fabrication on behalf of Sir Nicholas Moseley when claiming a coat of arms.

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I guess even aristocratic families can have family legends that don't quite add up once you actually start researching them?
by John Atkinson G2G6 Pilot (603k points)

The relation between the listed person and the original author is Great Uncle/Nephew... But yes I know what you mean. At the moment, I am solely focusing on two families at the moment: Mosley (Especially with me being a descendant, and trying to iron out a lot of the bugs between sources and information spread within the family. I mean the family traces back to Ernald de Mosley in the 12th century but there is very little in the way of recorded dates. On top of that, there are numerous surname variants which get used. Had a couple of duplicate profiles a few weeks ago in which there was a touch of confusion because one set was going by the commonly used dates which were later proved incorrect by a newer source - whilst connecting another profile to a previously unknown set of parental profile and on top of that fixing a set of profile errors on one of the parent profiles) and the other family is the Dalrymple family (Huge Scottish aristocratic family, and particularly interested having came a mention on a profile that the particular individual is descended from a kinsman of the 1st Earl of Stair [that title took '''a long''' time to work on] and this person is also at least the great grandfather to some of the Baronets of Michelgrove...

Only time will tell before I inevitably prove or disprove those stories too

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https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_shipwrecks_in_the_1730s  this is a list of ships lost at sea in the 1700s.   May not be a complete list but it might be somewhere to start...

http://www.olivetreegenealogy.com/ships/tousa1730-1740.shtml  scroll down to see passenger lists from 1730 - 1740

http://immigrantships.net/1700/
by Laura Bozzay G2G6 Pilot (817k points)
Would have looked at this yesterday, but was flat with class and other involvements...
 

Thanks

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