Is the child a Jr. for just having the same first name as father?

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I need some help,

My mother in law Pat Cox Gilchrist (Cox-16726)

Her father is Philip Hugh Cox Jr. Cox-18659) and she swears that no one names a son Jr. unless their name is identical to the sons.  Well the father I have found for Philip is named Philip Henry Cox.  She swears  that can't be her grandfather!!! She sent me a picture of him with his second wife. She agrees that his first wife was named Alice and his second wife is Edith.  Well it took me a long time, but I found Edith Schultz  Philip and Edith got married a few months after Philips first wife passed away.

I searched for a number of days on ancestry, myheritage, and familysearch for a philip hugh who had a son philip hugh that matched my philip hugh and couldnt find him.   

It's it possible that a man could name his son Jr just by matching the first names?

Taylor
asked in The Tree House by Taylor Worthington-Gilchrist G2G6 Mach 6 (69.4k points)
Middle names do not need to match. A lot of times the first names don't even match like if the father uses the same preferred name as his son's birth name. For instance my father was a Curtis but went by Ronnie. I am a Ronald but went by Ronnie as a child so was often called Jr. outside the family. As an adult, my preferences changed but some people really get into the kin labeling so you get II, III, IV etc. Some people even skip a generation and pay homage to a favored grandfather.

To clarify, Jr. is used incorrectly if first and middle don't match, but there are a lot of daring people out there riding the roads less travelled.

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Anything's possible, of course, but normally the first, middle, (however many others), and last names match for a Jr.

My father and grandfather were both Herbert Edward (Sr and Jr).  My parents kindly gave me a different middle name, so no one would call me Herb the Third.  And no one ever did.  :)

It seems you have pretty solidly IDed the Philips.  If you are absolutely certain about the middle names, I think it calls for a note in Junior's bio.
answered by Herbert Tardy G2G6 Pilot (318k points)
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Mystery has been solved!

Found a photo of Philip Hugh Cox's parents from another sister that I had been given many years ago.  Written on the back of the photo states his father is Philip Henry Cox Sr.!!!

I will have to send a copy of that writing to my mother in law.  Her sister that wrote it has passed on.  The photo was in a book from Philip Hugh's 2nd wife.

I guess this demonstrates that parents years ago did not always follow the traditional naming rules for Jr. etc.  This certainly is an exception to what you would expect.

Thanks for all your assistance

Taylor
answered by Taylor Worthington-Gilchrist G2G6 Mach 6 (69.4k points)

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