I have what should be a "brick wall" - George W(ashington) Thornburg b:1847-48

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I have what should be a simple "brick wall" - but cannot get past it.  My Ggrandfather is George W(ashington) Thornburg b:1847-48 in IN or IL.  First able to "prove" him as my grandfather in 1880 census. age 34 in Montague TX.  I am not sure how to verify him to previous potential census entries: I do have numerous matches on my brother's Ydna, FTDNA kit #521093.  I recently upgraded to a Y-111 in hopes of getting more information (but this has not been completed as yet), but am not sure how to go about matching the Ydna to "skip" this ggrandfather.  I am so new at this, I know the answer is in front of me - just don't know enough to "see" it.  Any suggestions or assistance will be greatly appreciated.
in Genealogy Help by Cheryl Thornburg G2G Crew (740 points)

Is this him ?


George Thornburgh

 in the U.S., Find A Grave Index, 1600s-Current

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    Name: George Thornburgh
    Birth Date: 25 Jan 1847
    Birth Place: Havana, Mason County, Illinois, United States of America
    Death Date: 3 Mar 1923
    Cemetery: Mount Holly Cemetery
    Burial or Cremation Place: Little Rock, Pulaski County, Arkansas, United States of America
    Has Bio?: Y
    Father: Eli Thornburgh
    Spouse: Margaret Carrie Thornburgh
    Children: Daisy Thornburgh 
    Lillie Thornburgh 
    Celestia Thornburgh 
    Georgie Edna Thornburgh
    URL: http://www.findagrave.com/cgi-...

    Source Information

    Ancestry.com. U.S., Find A Grave Index, 1600s-Current [database on-line]. Provo, UT, USA: Ancestry.com Operations, Inc., 2012.

    Original data: Find A Grave. Find A Grave. http://www.findagrave.com/cgi-bin/fg.cgi.


    He moved around a lot.


    George Thornburg

     in the 1900 United States Federal Census

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      Name: George Thornburg
      Age: 52
      Birth Date: abt 1848
      Birthplace: Illinois
      Home in 1900: Township 16, Cherokee Nation, Indian Territory
      Sheet Number: 7B
      Number of Dwelling in Order of Visitation: 128
      Family Number: 128
      Race: White
      Relation to Head of House: Head
      Spouse's Name: Jennetta Thornburg
      Occupation: Farm
      Months not employed: 0
      Can Read: Yes
      Can Write: Yes
      Can Speak English: Yes
      Farm or House: F
      Neighbors: View others on page
      Household Members:
      Name Age
      George Thornburg 52
      Jennetta Thornburg 46
      Andrew Thornburg 23
      Isaac C Thornburg 11
      Andra E Thornburg 9
      Jessee Lee Thornburg 5
      George N Thornburg 4

      Source Citation

      Year: 1900; Census Place: Township 16, Cherokee Nation, Indian Territory; Roll: 1845; Page: 7B; Enumeration District: 0039; FHL microfilm: 1241845



      George W Thornburg

       in the 1850 United States Federal Census

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        Name: George W Thornburg
        Age: 2
        Birth Year: abt 1848
        Birthplace: Illinois
        Home in 1850: Van Buren, Fountain, Indiana, USA
        Gender: Male
        Family Number: 1041
        Household Members:
        Name Age
        Evan Thornburg 22
        Celian Thornburg 26
        Margaret Thornburg 20
        Elizabeth Thornburg 19
        Sarah Thornburg 17
        George W Thornburg 2
        Malinda J Thornburg 0

        Source Citation

        Year: 1850; Census Place: Van Buren, Fountain, Indiana; Roll: M432_145; Page: 73B; Image: 512


        No info to confirm whether this is him or not.
        See my tree, Thornburg-467
        He didn't really move around a lot.  You're looking at several different George Thornburgs.  There were many with that name born in Indiana and Illinois between 1845 and 1855.  Our George was born approx 1847 ( my family records show Aug 1847, Clark County, Illinois); one or two records show him born in Indiana, but, his military records, etc. all show him born in Illinois.  He was in the Civil War, which moved him a bit; then, married Nettie in Illinois.  They lived in Texas for a brief period and then went to Pontotoc, Oklahoma where he stayed until after she had passed away.  He remarried at 63 yrs of age in Nov 1910, in Pontotoc County, Oklahoma.  After that, we can't find any record of him or his new wife.
        I will do more research on this record showing Eli Thornburg as the possible father.   I am beginning to believe that he was in fact born in Illinois and I know that he was married in 1870 in Illinois to Jennetta Waller.   She appears in the 1870 census, but I find no record of George W in the 1870 census.  I have heard that later in life, he married Ellen .Glessby?? in Oklahoma.  Afterward, he married a woman in Arkansas - one Nellie Martin I believe - so it may be that he was buried in Arkansas.

        I appreciate the assistance each of you has provided.   I am still working with Ydna to attempt to find out which Thornburg brother I am descended from.

        Any other suggestions will be greatly appreciated.
        Her name was Nancy "Nannie" Martin.  No other info on her, probably a married name.  And, Martin is another of those really common names, hard to track.  Can't find a Nancy Thornburg anywhere...no death records in Arkansas for either of them, so far.

        Ellen Glessby was a Mrs. on their marriage license, so, that was a married name.  No other info on her either.  This marriage only last 2.5 years.  Did she die or were they divorced?  Can't find any further records.

        1 Answer

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        Is this his marriage record?   "Illinois Marriages, 1815-1935," database, FamilySearch(https://familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:V2PH-14M : 29 December 2014), Geo W. Thornburg and Salivia Pitman Laughtin, 24 May 1899; citing Paris, Edgar, Illinois; FHL microfilm 1,301,882.

        If so, then the parents from the 1850 census above are his parents. but, now, not sure if the father is Evan or Eli.   You can get a copy of the marriage record and see the detail.

        by Robin Lee G2G6 Pilot (714k points)

        No, it's not.  Following is his marriage record from familysearch.org.  My family also had bible records showing Nettie as his wife.  They were still together at the 1900 census.  She died in 1906; he is still in Pontotoc County, Oklahoma at the 1910 census, but, widowed.



        Indexed Information

        Name George Thornsburg
        Spouse's Name Jenneatta Waller
        Event Date 22 Sep 1870
        Event Place Douglas,Illinois


        "Illinois Marriages, 1815-1935," database, FamilySearch (https://familysearch.org/pal:/MM9.1.1/V2GG-383 : 29 December 2014), George Thornsburg and Jenneatta Waller, 22 Sep 1870; citing Douglas,Illinois; FHL microfilm 1,295,955.

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