I'm looking for information on the Norris & Crawford families in Donegal or Derry

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I'm wondering if anyone can help with  getting information on a James Norris born 1826 died 1922 from Carrowbeg in Co.Donegal he married a Jane  Crawford born 1838 died 1903.  They lived in moville in Co.Donegal
in Genealogy Help by Nigel Hayden G2G1 (1.3k points)

James died 16th April 1922 at Carrowbeg: link

His 1911 census record is at: link

His 1901 census record is at: link

Jane died 18th April 1903 at Carrowbeg: link

His children included:

  • James Norris born on 21st August 1864: link
  • Samuel Norris born on 17th November 1868: link
  • Margaret Jane Norris born 2nd February 1871: link
  • William Norris born on 24th January 1873: link
  • John Norris born on 25th December 1874: link

EDIT: The school records also show a Robert Norris who was probably born in 1866.

John wasn't listed as a land occupier in 1857, but there is a Robert Norris (link) at Carrowbeg who may be his father.

Back to 1833 and Samuel Norris appears to be the big land occupier (link).

Strangely the Tithe Applotments of 1827 have no Norris' in Carrowbeg: link

Yet by 1833 Samuel appears to own all 464 acres of it.

EDIT: Between 1827 and 1833 there were 28 Civil Bill Ejectments in Lower Moville.

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Thanks for that information. Any way of finding out more about Jane Crawford  ?

LDS have a record showing James and Jane getting married on 28 June 1859 in Dunboe, County Derry (link). His father was Robert, hers was James. This is in the registration district of Coleraine (link).

Strangely enough the 1831 Census is available for Dunboe and shows two heads of household called James Crawford, both with large families (link).

There's only one James showing in the 1858-59 property records for Dunboe: link. Looking at the Valuation Revision Books it appears he was living there in 1872 but not 1875.

Robert Norris died aged 76 in 1866: link

It would be very interesting to find out how he acquired the land

Hi Nigel,

I don't think I've discovered your family fortune. Re-looking at the 1833 record it appears that he lived in the only house in the Townland, not that he occupied all the land.

Comparing 1827 with 1857, the McShefreys, Baxters, and Wallaces occupy land in both surveys, so I suspect that they had land but not houses in the 1833 survey.

The house that Robert occupied was where this building is http://www.treanhouse.com/. It may not be the same building though.

EDIT: The house is owned by Mervyn Norris, perhaps a distant relative. It might be worth emailing him.


This one is probably yours too:

"The bells for the new St. Pius X Church were donated by Crawford Norris. Although of different faiths, Crawford and Fr. Dan were firm friends and often enjoyed playing cards with each other. Crawford also was a major contributor to the American fundraising effort." Link

Crawford Norris  was my  grandfather's brother

Thanks for your help John
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I might be able to help.  I am working on an earlier generation of Norrises--William Norris who emigrated to Wisconsin in 1845.  I am related through that line, and have made two trips to Carrobeg looking for graves of these mid-19th Century Norris family.

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