SMITH, ALFRED A. 1828 - 1900 PITTSTOWN, RENSSELAER, NY - SEEKING PARENTS, SIBLINGS, ETC

Question

Descendant list for Alfred A. Smith below.  This is as far as I've gotten on the Smith side of the family.

Descendant List of Alfred A. Smith 5 October 2017

1-Alfred A. SMITH (7 May 1828-20 Jun 1900)
+Ruth A HALL (12 Mar 1840-18 Nov 1899)
. . . . 2-Ancel B SMITH (20 Jan 1861-23 Oct 1913)
. . . . 2-David A SMITH (Jul 1862-)
. . . . +Elizabeth J MICKLE (Mar 1867-)
. . . . . . . . 3-Grant David SMITH (4 Jul 1893-1949)
. . . . . . . . +Viola May LAYTON (20 Sep 1893-Jan 1975)
. . . . . . . . . . . . 4-Joan Elizabeth SMITH (17 Aug 1924-7 Aug 2012)
. . . . . . . . . . . . +Kasmer Joseph STEMPEK (7 Jul 1922-)
. . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . 5-Jan Elizabeth STEMPEK (-)
. . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . +Michael MCGUIRE (-)
. . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . 5-Jill STEMPEK (-)
. . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . 5-Michael STEMPEK (-)
. . . . . . . . . . . . 4-David Layton SMITH (27 May 1929-23 Jun 2005)
. . . . . . . . . . . . +Andrea PEDERSON PINKUL (-)
. . . . . . . . . . . . +Elsie Mae SOLONKA (2 Aug 1932-)
. . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . 5-Jeffrey Grant SMITH (19 Dec 1959-)
. . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . +Judith FOX (1961-)
. . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . 6-Lindsey Elizabeth SMITH (-)
. . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . 6-Melissa Mae SMITH (19 Nov 1990-)
. . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . 5-Loraine Elizabeth SMITH (2 Nov 1961-)
. . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . +John STARBECK (6 Aug 1962-)
. . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . 6-Jennifer "Jenna" SMITH (11 Jun 1982-)
. . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . +Richard Brian CARGILL (29 Jul 1958-)
. . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . 5-Russell Layton SMITH (7 Oct 1965-4 Oct 2011)
. . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . +Rebecca WELLS (-)
. . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . 6-Karlianna Liberty SMITH (-)
. . . . . . . . 3-Bertha M SMITH (abt 1895-)
. . . . . . . . +Alexander B. SHARPE (1886-1971)
. . . . . . . . . . . . 4-Grant A SHARPE (13 Apr 1914-19 Nov 1998)
. . . . 2-Leonard J SMITH (29 May 1884-7 Nov 1889)
. . . . 2-Edward "Eddy" SMITH (1865-1928)
. . . . 2-James SMITH (abt 1867-)
. . . . 2-Ethan SMITH (abt 1869-abt 1933)
. . . . +Etta L SPRINGER (1881-1955)
. . . . . . . . 3-Alexander A SMITH (abt 1899-)
. . . . 2-Evelina SMITH (abt 1872-)
. . . . 2-Sidney SMITH (1876-1933)
. . . . 2-Lottie P SMITH (7 May 1871-3 Sep 1871)

 

Thanks,

Loraine

Comments

I was reviewing the 1875 census more, because everyone from the locality seems to live next to or near the family of their spouse.  I found a large number of Smith's in the near vicinity and the same district that could be brothers, sisters or parents of Albert, and I noticed that some were born in Ireland.  I'm wondering if Alfred's father (and/or mother) immigrated from Ireland.

Answer 1

Hi Loraine,

I see that Alfred had a bunch of sons.  There should be plenty of living yDNA to get a test done.  The yDNA is passed from each father to each of his sons.  We have found that yDNA is really the only way to sort out the Smith paternal lines.  With a yDNA test, we can often determine which Smith family is your paternal line, and then you can ignore all the rest of the Smith lines because they are not your genetic relatives.

I strongly recommend that you get one of your brothers or a Smith male cousin to do a yDNA37 marker test. We have 88 matching yDNA groups in our SmithConnections Northeastern DNA Project.  You may be related to one of these groups, or you may be in a new or unmatched group, but only a yDNA test will tell.  Here is  our project website:  https://www.familytreedna.com/groups/smith-connections/about/results  You can order a test kit and Join the project through our Join button on the banner head.  There are different tests, but you will need a yDNA37 marker test at a minimum for your male Smith test participant.  If you order the test, he can be completely anonymous.

Hope you join us soon!  I would love to see if we could find your colonial ancestors.

Kitty Cooper Smith

Comments

I totally agree.  Problem is getting them to agree to it & the cost.  Once I have the $$, I'll get my sister In law or cousin in law to help with getting one to agree to it.

Answer 2

Did not find much on Alfred. Ruth's mother's first name, Priscilla.

Ruth Hall
United States Census, 1850
Name    Ruth Hall
Event Type    Census
Event Year    1850
Event Place    Pittstown, Rensselaer, New York, United States
Gender    Female
Age    10
Race    White
Birth Year (Estimated)    1840
Birthplace    New York
House Number    1240
Household
Role
Sex
Age
Birthplace
Dennis Hall        M    30    New York
Priscilla Hall        F    28    New York
Ruth Hall        F    10    New York
Pheby J Hall        F    9    New York
Ai Hall        M    4    New York
Armena Hall        F    1    New York

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United States Census, 1850
Household ID    1335
Line Number    31
Affiliate Name    The U.S. National Archives and Records Administration (NARA)
Affiliate Publication Number    M432
Affiliate Film Number    585
GS Film Number    444301
Digital Folder Number    004203138
Image Number    00183
Citing this Record
"United States Census, 1850," database with images, FamilySearch (https://familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:MC1Z-6XK : 12 April 2016), Ruth Hall in household of Dennis Hall, Pittstown, Rensselaer, New York, United States; citing family 1335, NARA microfilm publication M432 (Washington, D.C.: National Archives and Records Administration, n.d.).

Comments

Thank you Frank.  I actually have all the census records and his descendants (just haven't put them all as references in wikitree yet.  I appreciate you looking.  I've tried everything I can think of -- reading books, newspaper searches, articles, searching nearby states, and I cannot locate anything.  None of them owned land as far as I can tell.  Frustrating because of the "Smith" name.

Answer 3

Ruth A Hall
New York State Census, 1855
Name    Ruth A Hall
Event Type    Census
Event Date    1855
Event Place    E.D. 2, Pittstown, Rensselaer, New York, United States
Gender    Female
Age    15
Relationship to Head of Household    Child
Birth Year (Estimated)    1840
Household
Role
Sex
Age
Birthplace
Dennis Hall    Head    M    40   
Pricilla Hall    Wife    F    32   
Ruth A Hall    Child    F    15   
Phebe J Hall    Child    F    14   
Ai Hall    Child    M    8   
Armena Hall    Child    F    6   
Elisabeth Hall    Child    F    4   
Calvin Hall    Child    M    2   
Clark Hall    Child    M    0   
Amenia Brownell    Mother    F    55   

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New York State Census, 1855
Family Number    184
Line Number    15
Page    22
GS Film number    549887
Digital Folder Number    005207102
Image Number    00192
Citing this Record
"New York State Census, 1855," database with images, FamilySearch (https://familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:K63Z-ZTV : 7 September 2016), Ruth A Hall in household of Dennis Hall, E.D. 2, Pittstown, Rensselaer, New York, United States; citing p. 22, line #15, family #184, county clerk offices, New York; FHL microfilm 549,887.

Comments

Again, thank you Frank.  I did have this information and Pricilla's mother's name.  I'm still seeking information for her father and onward.