Do you know the relationship between Barbara Winkler's father and my great grandfather, A. Pinkney "Pink" Winkler?

Question

Barbara Winkler's parents are the earliest born Winklers buried at the Winklers Grove church cemetery in Burke County, N.C.  My great grandfather, "Pink," his wife, and some of his children are also buried there.  Barbara's father was born on 3/7/1806 and my great--grandfather was born on 8/30/1854.  The age difference makes me think that Barbara's grandfather might be either the father or an uncle of my great-grandfather; but, with so many Winklers in that area, they might not be that closely related.

Comments

Barbara Winkler was the sibling of Pinkney even though Pinkney Winkler was  21 years her Senior. 

Barbara Ann Winkler Poovey was born in Burke County, North Carolina in 1833 and died in 1920.

Oh how I wish I knew who the anonymous above man Jerry Huffman was on here, so I could connect to him. My grandma was Vena May Huffman from Franklin county, Tennessee.

My 3rd Great grandma was Annie Mariah Winkler-

( 1 Oct 1819- NC- 25 Sep.,1906) Lynchburg, Tennessee & her two husbands-

Alexander Cobble & H.L.T. Hill.

4th GGPa- Jacob Jersey Conrad Winkler-1766-Mammouth, New Jersey-1852- Franklin County, Tennessee. & his wife-

Margaret Peggy Hise (1765-1860).

5th GGPa- Hans Thomas Conradt Winkler- ( 5 June 1739- Zell, Zurich, Switzerland-9 Mar. 1803 Burke County, NC.) & his wife-

Elizabeth Fischer/ Fisher-( 24 May 1746- Cocalico, Lancaster, Pennsylvania, - 17 December 1845 Burke County, NC.)

Hope this helps.

Solomon- 2474

Answer 1

It's amazing that I came across your question.  My name is Jerry Huffman and I'm a grandson of "Pink's" daughter, Bessie Edna Catherine Huffman.  My father was Francis Pinkney Huffman.  

I had a good "handle" on the Huffman/Hoffman side of my family and only this week started researching the Winkler side.  I think I can help with your question.  The reason for the age difference between Pink and Abraham "Abe" is that Pink was the last of 9 (I believe) children.  He was born in 1854 and his oldest brother was born in 1832.  I was lucky enough to have this data laid before me when I chanced upon a family tree on the Internet for the "Eckard" family at www.ncgenweb.us/catawba/family/Eckard.TXT.  

Probably like me, you have traced our ancestry back to the three brothers who arrived in Philadelphia in 1753.  If the data I've found is correct, in 1779 one of the brothers purchased land that included the property Pink and probably Abe lived on.  He is probably, but not definitely a direct ancestor.  I have been unable to identify who Abe's parents were; but I have a lot of data about the Winklers who descended from the three brothers.  If you know who Abe's parents were, I'd appreciate that information.  Baring any subsequent  transfer of the Burke property from one branch of the Winklers to another, I think I know which branch we belong to; but I'm not certain.  

Again, it was interesting to see your question.  .

Comments

Barbara Winkler was the sibling of Pinkney even they were there was 21 years her Senior. 

Barbara Ann Winkler Poovey was born in Burke County, North Carolina in 1833 and died in 1920.

Oh how I wish I knew who the anonymous above man Jerry Huffman was on here, so I could connect to him. My grandma was Vena May Huffman from Franklin county, Tennessee.

My 3rd Great grandma was Annie Mariah Winkler-

( 1 Oct 1819- NC- 25 Sep.,1906) Lynchburg, Tennessee & her two husbands-

Alexander Cobble & H.L.T. Hill.

4th GGPa- Jacob Jersey Conrad Winkler-1766-Mammouth, New Jersey-1852- Franklin County, Tennessee. & his wife-

Margaret Peggy Hise (1765-1860).

5th GGPa- Hans Thomas Conradt Winkler- ( 5 June 1739- Zell, Zurich, Switzerland-9 Mar. 1803 Burke County, NC.) & his wife-

Elizabeth Fischer/ Fisher-( 24 May 1746- Cocalico, Lancaster, Pennsylvania, - 17 December 1845 Burke County, NC.)

Hope this helps.

Solomon- 2474

Answer 2

I'd like to expand on my previous answer.  When I was doing my research, I came across the Winkler's Grove Cemetery data before I came across the Eckard family tree.  I, too, was concerned about the age difference between Abe and Pink and whether they were father and son or were related in some other way.  Fortunately, the Eckard family tree resolved that question.  

Also, since Pink was our great-grandfather, I can only wonder what our kinship is.

Anyway, the main reason for this second "answer" is to provide more information, even though you might already have it.  It's just that the brother who purchased the Winkler land in 1779 ((350 acres on the South Side of Drawing Creek on the Catawba River) was Conrad Winkler.  Apparently, his father was Hans Conradus or Coonrod, who stayed in Germany with his wife Kunigunda Steinhart Winkler.  One of Conrad's brothers was "Thomas" who is sometimes referred to as "Hans Domas "Thomas."  Conrad, himself is sometimes referred to as "Conradt" or one on site as "Thomas Conradt."  Like the name change in 1749, or later,  from Hoffman to Huffman for my ancestors on my father's father's side, I suspect that given names for the Winklers might have been Anglicized when they arrived in Philadelphia in 1753, along with possibly changing Winckler to Winkler at that time..  

Also, while I'm thinking about it ... in case you don't already know ... one of our ancestors had a brother or a nephew, also named Winkler, who ended up as a lawyer, judge, and politician in Texas and an officer in the Civil War who led the Texas Navarro Rifles, reportedly the only Texas unit that fought under Rober E. Lee.  During the war he advanced to Lt. Colonel and was shot in the leg.  The reason I bring him up is that Winkler County Texas was named after him.  His name was Clinton McKamy Winkler and he was born in 1820.

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