A FindMyPast Lookup Request for the St. Marylebone 1821/31 Census

Question

A FindMyPast search on the 1821 & 1831 Census for St. Marylebone possibly shows my 3rd great-grandparents.

The name is 'Fitzpatrick' and can be found at '24 Henrietta Street' (in 21/31) and '113 Portland Street Great' (in 31).

Is anyone able to look up the remainder of the information that's available for me... Hopefully the first name of the head of household and number of M/F occupants (and whatever else!)?  The Great Portland Street address is looking to be the most promising for me.

https://search.findmypast.co.uk/results/world-records/london-westminster-marylebone-census-1821-and-1831?lastname=fitzpatrick

Answer 1

Hello Geoff I have downloaded the image of 1821 31 Census if you would like a copy. The details simply give the name of the family in the house, the numbers of males, females, employed not employed and the no of males / females in each age group

House 26 - Families occ house - 10 ;  Name Fitzpatrick ; males incl chn (excl soldiers/sailors) - 7 ; Females inclu chn - 18 ; chiefly employed - 10 ; not chiefly employed - 0 ; Males 5/10yrs - 8 ; 40/50yrs - 9 70/80yrs - 4 ; Females 10/15yrs - 7 30/40yrs 9

Comments

Thanks Jennifer! A copy would be greatly appreciated. Apologies, this is my first time requesting info here - how do you go about getting it to me?

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Hello Geoff I am new at this too. Are you able to see my email after this comment if so send me your email direct and I will email to you. Otherwise I will have to add it for public viewing. Alternatively as you have Ancestry. let me know through that avenue - My main family tree is POAKE Look for Frank Poake and Beatrice Edith Sexstone mge - you will find me - Jenaldee

Answer 2

What is the first name Geoff? I don't have a findmypast, but I do have Ancestry. I see a John Fitzpatrick on Henrietta Street. It is a land tax record though, so just the head of household is shown.

Jane 1809 Gym Place

Wm 1818 Portman St

Mrs 1795 Norton St

John 1821 Henrietta St West

John 1824 Henrietta St West

Ms 1823 Henrietta St West

Josh 1822 Henrietta St West

J 1827 Great Portland St

J 1828 Great Portland St

Comments

Hello, and thanks for replying!

I have Ancestry too, but it turns out knowing where to look is half the battle!

I am after a John Fitzpatrick, yes, but there are a few in the area at the time, so I'm currently trying to eliminate them one-by-one.  I had found the Death Record of a JF listing the Henrietta Street address, but that's inconclusive for me at the moment (he seems to be there on the 1821/1831 census, and now also at least 1821/1824 on the Land Tax). I was looking for confirmation of the number of other residents in the house there (sadly, a substantial number, as per Jennifer's post), as he married in 1830 and their (seemingly) only child was born in 1832.

The family disappear from the current indexes of the 1841 census (so I'm looking at trawling the streets manually), but as both wife and child turn up on the 1851 census (and subsequently) as servant and housekeeper at different houses in London, I'm working on the theory that JF died between 1831 and 1851 and trying to build a picture based on that.

The other JF at Great Portland Street is also of interest.  Fingers crossed he was a son who moved out of Henrietta Street in 1827 to his own pad, just before getting married at the church at the bottom of the road...

All good fun theorising. Hope to find some solid evidence! :)

Answer 3

The 1831 Census details are 113 Portland St. Col 1. Fitzpatrick ; Col 2. 3 families ; Col 3 No of family in Agric - 0 ; Col 4. No of Family in Trade / Manuf / Retail / Handicraft - 2 ; Col 5 No of family not in Cols 3/4 - 1; Col.6 No of males - 4 ; Col7. No Females - 5 ; Col 8 (cant read heading in the curve of the page - 9 ; Col 9. ditto - 4 ; Males employed in Retail 3 ; Males employed in Labour - not Agriculture - 1 - Again I have downloaded the image if you would like it.