Why are there so many errors in the Bonville and Grenville family genealogies on WikiTree?

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Why does WikiTree use just one source for their lineages?  Wouldn't that just reek of genealogical bias, resulting in a skewed analysis of historical events?
WikiTree profile: Philippa Bonville
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For whatever it's worth, I'm leaning toward showing Philippa as the "uncertain" daughter of William (not John) Bonville.

In addition, per Joe Cochoit's reasoning, I'm inclined to add an  "uncertain" William Grenville (perhaps husband of a Calmady, per the arms in that stained glass window), as the father of William Grenville, wife of Philippa.

This way, the parents of both William Grenville and wife Philippa will be shown as uncertain, and, if explained well, the whole conundrum will serve as a lesson in the pitfalls and unavoidable uncertainties of medieval genealogy.

Once again, top on my wish list is for someone to examine the original manuscript of the 1620 Grenville visitation, the published version of which showed Grenvilles marrying SISTERS (not daughters) of Theobald Gorges and William Bonville.   My sneaking suspicion is that an abbreviation for "daughters" in the original manuscript got misread as an abbreviation for "sisters" in the published version.
answered by J S G2G6 Mach 9 (92.2k points)
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Is that you again?  Last time this came up, I ended up completely unconvinced that Philippa was a Bonville at all.
answered by RJ Horace G2G6 Pilot (391k points)
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Philippa Bonville was born in the 14th century when records were not very good.  Church records of baptisms are practically non-existent.  In this case, the major source for much of the profile is a record created two centuries later, with lots of supposition added in. Douglas Richardson's works are used as the go-to source because he has done so much well-documented research, but this profile also has recent information and theories from the forum at  soc.genealogy.medieval.  If you have ideas, theories and sources, please communicate with the profile manager and advance them.

answered by Vic Watt G2G6 Pilot (311k points)
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Rather than criticize anonymously, in an unconstructive, snide way, join wikitree and offer honest, sourced contributions.
answered by Eddie King G2G6 Pilot (359k points)
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I've been asked (by the profile manager, John Schmeeckle), after posting (comments) on Philippa's page (with sources) to post those comments here.

I had made a G2G thread showing where the information (likely) got confused, and how to sort it. That post is here : Philippa Bonville (parentage/origins)

answered by M Anonymous G2G6 (8.8k points)

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