Has anyone ever heard of the cemetery mentioned in this record?

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My third great grandmother is suppose to be buried in this cemetery (burial ground) but I can't find it anywhere...I'm guessing the transcriber thought everyone would understand her shorthand but I've tried looking this up about 15 different ways and I'm coming up with nothing.

The record comes from Family Search for May Pringle:

https://familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:2WJ3-QW6

WikiTree profile: May Pringle
in Genealogy Help by T Counce G2G6 Mach 6 (60.1k points)

The Whole Record...but I only want to know where the burial location is:

Name May Pringle
Event Type Death
Event Date 08 Apr 1869
Event Place Manhattan, New York, New York, United States
Gender Female
Age 63
Marital Status Married
Race White
Birth Year (Estimated) 1806
Birthplace Scotland
Burial Date 09 Apr 1869
Burial Place St. Y. Bay
Father's Birthplace Scotland
Mother's Birthplace Scotland
I cannot find a NY cemetery with the word Bay in it...only in New Jersey... :(
Have you looked for a Catholic Church with cemetery for Saint Y...?

There are several Saints whose name begins with Y. A call to the Manhattan library asking about defunct churches?

I wonder if the 'Y' was supposed to be NY. There is a St Patrick Cemetery, Bay Shore, NY (it shows up as St Patrick on Internment, Bay Shore on FAG)

Bay Shore Cemetery is only 44% photographed

Eddie, I did, nothing...the only one is St Yves and it's in Washington State on the other side of the country.
M Silva, that's a possibility...have to wait until the rest of it is photographed I guess...though going from New York County to Suffolk County for a burial in 1869 seems a bit of a stretch...not impossible though...but it's about 100 miles away.

Have you tried...Bayview Cemetery, previously called Greenville Cemetery, is located in Jersey City, New Jersey. It merged with New York Bay Cemetery and is now known as Bayview – New York Bay Cemetery.

 

I dont know the area....from hawaii...but just tryin' to help

The record does not say burial was in Manhattan, or even New York (state) or the United States of America. We are only informed that death occurred in Manhattan.
And we are informed that the burial was in St. Y Bay, wherever it may be. The where it might be was my original question.

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+7 votes
But there is no burial ground mentioned there that I can see. Just Manhattan and New York Records.
by anonymous G2G6 Pilot (254k points)

3rd one from the bottom:

Burial Place St. Y. Bay
Sorry. Missed it.

If you run that through Google with Manhattan it gives variations on "X St(reet) Bay 50 St". Does that make any sense?
So St. would be street and not Saint...interesting idea...
Bay Avenue and Y Avenue aren't in Manhattan, which really isn't an issue due to burial issues but Y and Bay do not cross one another....but that was a good clue...at least I know what it isn't...thank you Martin.
Ah well. Just a thought. There is no such cemetery in Findagrave that I can see. Good hunting.
Nothing comes up on Google either...sigh...
+6 votes
I know nothing about New York geography, but applying a little out-of-the-box thinking to the word Bay, I wonder whether the transcriber might have used St as a shortened form of Staten. I may be way of track, but could be worth a look.
by Lynda Crackett G2G6 Pilot (624k points)
I checked there, too...nothing on Staten Island that comes close.
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When there is no image for the record you also don't know if there has been a mistranscription of some kind in the name of the burial place.

Not that I have the slightest idea what it could have been instead.
by Eva Ekeblad G2G6 Pilot (337k points)
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I have a few thoughts...

Since this is a transcription, can we know for 100% certainty the original record states "St. Y. Cemetery"?? How difficult would it be to view the original?

Since the burial occurred in 1869 in arguably the most evolving piece of geography on the planet, what are the odds said cemetery is still where it was? Reasonably, in the name of progress, the remains may have been moved and reinterred somewhere else; however the less palatable possibility is that it may have been lost and covered over.

I found a very lovely blog about New York Cemeteries. It may be worth an email to the lady who writes it for her opinion.

https://nycemetery.wordpress.com/about/

by Christine Daniels G2G6 Mach 6 (65.6k points)
Thanks Christine. I see that before I posted my question. I was just hoping somebody would recognize the transcribed text of the burial place and be able to give me a clue. Contacting her is my next course of action, after I check the New Jersey burial sites that R Madden mentioned because honestly, that's the only thing that comes close to Manhattan that wouldn't take a couple of days to get to (since the record says she was buried the next day).
+1 vote
I sent a query to the MetropolitanCemeteryAssociation. I want to thank all of you who tried to help. I really do appreciate it. THANK YOU!
by T Counce G2G6 Mach 6 (60.1k points)

Update: Heard back from the Metropolitan Cemetery Association and they directed me to Green-Wood Cemetery so I sent my query there. Hopefully an answer will be forthcoming soon.

Update 2: Heard back already, sent him the information he requested, now we wait.

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