Are Hiley Ann Farris and Minerva Esther Farris the same person... or Twins?

+8 votes

Asking this again because of no response... been over a year...

One of my stumbling blocks is whether or not Hiley Ann Farris (Farris-574) and Minerva Esther Farris (Farris-612) are the same person or not. They were both born on 26 Mar 1812, and some people have listed them as one person (i.e., Minerva Esther 'Hiley' Farris - Farris-764). Hiley Ann Farris was my 3rd Great Grandmother and I have some information on her, but there's very limited information on Minerva Esther Farris, but she may have died in 1874 in Iowa as compared to 1877 in Missouri for Hiley. To compound the problem, Hiley's name is spelled Hily on her tombstone with a birthdate of May 12, 1798.  In 1798, her mother would have been 11.   Are they twins or the same person? ... I'm so confused! I'm personally leaning towards the twin theory.

WikiTree profile: Hiley Parman
in Genealogy Help by Ken Parman G2G6 Mach 3 (33.3k points)
Actually hoping that someone might have John & Sarah's bible or something with birth records.... That would solve the problem hopefully.

2 Answers

+9 votes

Hi Ken - I found this which would indicate they are two separate women.  But, of course, this is not a reliable source and may not be correct.   Perhaps if we pursue a search  through his name we may find something more worthwhile.  Also note that if this is the same Minerva, she would be about 40 years old on this marriage date. 

U.S. and International Marriage Records, 1560-1900

Name Minerva Farris
Gender Female
Spouse Name Joseph M Vandiver
Marriage Year 1852
Marriage State KY
Number Pages 1
Household Members
Name Age
Minerva Farris  
Joseph M Vandiver  
by Patricia Stockley G2G6 Pilot (104k points)
Now that I have done more searching, I realize that this Minerva is not the correct one and is probably a niece.
Definitely confusing.... and definitely not my 2nd great grandmother. :-)
+5 votes

In the 1820 census, John enumerated four daughters, two under ten, two over ten. 

John Farris

 in the 1820 United States Federal Census

VIEW1820 United States Federal Census

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    Name: John Farris
    Home in 1820 (City, County, State): North West Side of Cumberland River, Knox, Kentucky
    Enumeration Date: August 7, 1820
    Free White Persons - Males - Under 10: 2
    Free White Persons - Males - 10 thru 15: 2
    Free White Persons - Males - 26 thru 44: 1
    Free White Persons - Females - Under 10: 3
    Free White Persons - Females - 10 thru 15: 2
    Free White Persons - Females - 26 thru 44: 1
    Number of Persons - Engaged in Agriculture: 3
    Free White Persons - Under 16: 9
    Free White Persons - Over 25: 2
    Total Free White Persons: 11
    Total All Persons - White, Slaves, Colored, Other: 11

    Source Citation

    1820 U S Census; Census Place: North West Side of Cumberland River, Knox, Kentucky; Page: 304; NARA Roll: M33_23; Image: 175

    by Eddie King G2G6 Pilot (419k points)
    I'd say, same gal, since Narcissa is one of the under tens
    There was actually 5 daughters, with 3 being under 10.... Gets even more confusing the more you dig.

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