what happened to mary alice salkeld born 1910 middlesbrough

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my grandma was amy salkeld born 1907 in shildon durham. my father  albert morris has not heard of  mary alice did she die young?
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anonymous, to find your grandma's sister its best to start with obvious records to ensure that you have the right person so the census (2 April, 1911) seems ideal for that (http://www.findmypast.co.uk/)...
(your grt-grandfather Fred reports that of total 6 children to date, two children have previously died)
SALKELD, Fred Head  Married M 33 1878 Shunter Yorks South Bank
SALKELD, Ellen Maud Wife  Married12 years F 30 1881 Yorks Middlesbro
CARLING, Jane Elizabeth Niece F 11 1900 School Yorks Middlesbro
SELKELD, Amy Daughter F 4 1907 Durham Shildon
SELKELD, Florence May Daughter F 7 1904 Durham Shildon
SELKELD, Mary Alice Daughter F 1 1910 Durham Shildon
SELKELD, Fred Son M 0 (6 MONTHS) 1911 Yorks
RG number: RG14 Piece: 29274 Reference: RG14PN29274 RG78PN1696 RD535 SD3 ED11 SN65
Registration District: Middlesbrough Sub District: Middlesbrough West Enumeration District: 11
Parish: Middlesbrough Address: 410 Cannon St Middlesbro County: Yorkshire (North riding)
 
Trying to find Mary Alice's birth in County Durham (1907-1911) with that name draws a blank so she must have been registered with a different name, or not born in Co. Durham.  Amy's birth is apparent in Q1, 1907 Auckland (SALKELD Amy, Auckland, 10a, 228) so if Mary was born in Co Durham it would likely be in that Registration District (Bishop Auckland is near Shildon).
 
Assuming Mary's reported age in 1911 was correct (between 1 & 2) she must have been born between 3 April, 1909 and 2 April, 1910.  There were only 5 girls born in this period in the county (http://www.freebmd.org.uk/cgi/search.pl) Margaret Annie, Hilda, Maria, Phyllis and Ella so in order to exclude these births you would need to find them in the 1911 census in other families - the one that you can't exclude may be your grandma's sister.  Searching for these young girls in the 1911 census shows us... Margaret is in Gateshead, Hilda is in Gateshead, Maria is in Lanchester, and Ella is in South Shields.
Only Phillis can't be accounted for but checking deaths, Phyllis died in Q3, 1910 (SALKELD Phyllis, 0, S.Shields, 10a, 429).
So as none of these births are your grandma's sister she must have been born outside of this period or in a different place, or both.
For more see comments below...
by Wombat Allen G2G6 Mach 2 (22.1k points)
Your grandma's sister must have been born at least 9 months (if not 18) after your grandmother and 9 months before her brother Fred so if we revise the birth period for a search from Q4, 1907 to Q4, 1910 and expand the area to Northern England we end up with 16 female births, 5 of which we excluded above, so we have 11 left, and we have also established that her birth was registered with a different name.
Q4, 1907 - SALKELD     Dorothy Agnes M    Newcastle T.     10b    128
Q1, 1908 - SALKELD     Catherine         S. Shields     10a    976      
Q1, 1908 - SALKELD    *Jane              Auckland     10a    248
Q2, 1908 - SALKELD     Mary Ann         Newcastle T.     10b    29      
Q2, 1908 - SALKELD    *May             Tynemouth     10b    384
Q3, 1908 - SALKELD     Dora Queenie         Guisbro'     9d    [56]20      
Q3, 1908 - SALKELD     Emily             Gateshead     10a    1005
Q4, 1908 - SALKELD     Ruth Monica         Gateshead     10a    1089
Q2, 1909 - SALKELD     Mary Margaretta    Newcastle T     10b    11
Q4, 1910 - SALKELD     Annie             Auckland     10a    235      
Q4, 1910 - SALKELD     Doris             Auckland     10a    228
We can filter these possible births by checking deaths - the ones with an asterisk have matching deaths before the 1911 census.
There are no obvious death records from 1911-2006 so if she did survive to adulthood and used a variant of the name she was given in the 1911 census she may have got married - unfortunately there are numerous possibilities.
If you were desperate you could order all 9 remaining birth certificates but if I had to choose I'd start with Mary Ann due to name similarity and Dora Queenie due to location (Guisbro' is the south east edge of Middlesborough).

I would definitely check for possible burials adjacent to other family members but that may need to be undertaken in person rather than online.  County specific genealogy sources can be found online:
County Durham = http://joinermarriageindex.co.uk/pjoiner/genuki/DUR/
Yorshire (NR) = http://www.genuki.org.uk/big/eng/YKS/index.html

Good Luck!

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