Looking for birth and death of Edmund House (later Howse)

Question

I am trying to find the birth and death of Edmund House (later Howse) [House-3995].

I have his marriage certificate to Lydia Hunt 19 May 1856 in Baptist Meeting House, Reading, Berkshire, and I have the birth certificate of one of his daughters Lillian Edith 14 Sep 1860 in Clapham, Surrey.

I have located him in the 1841, 1851, 1861 and 1871 censuses and he appears to have been born around 1833 in Cold Ash, Berkshire. His occupation was variously carver and gilder, gilder, builder, builder clerk(?).

He appears to have died between the 1871 and 1881 censuses as in 1881 3 of his children are living together with no parents and the eldest son Charles Edmund, age 22, is head of the family. I guess as the kids were quite young they had no idea what to do when their father died so it is possible the death was never registered, but I imagine he was buried somewhere.

I seem to have got all I can from FamilySearch. Any suggestions as to where I might go for further information.

 

Answer 1

Edmund Wilfrid Howes

England and Wales Death Registration Index 1837-2007

Name	Edmund Wilfrid Howes
Event Type	Death
Registration Quarter	Jan-Feb-Mar
Registration Year	1876
Registration District	Croydon
County	Surrey
Event Place	Croydon, Surrey, England
Volume	2A
Page	138
Line Number	320

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England and Wales Death Registration Index 1837-2007

Citing this Record

"England and Wales Death Registration Index 1837-2007," database, FamilySearch(https://familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:2JGM-KSQ : 31 December 2014), Edmund Wilfrid Howes, 1876; from "England & Wales Deaths, 1837-2006," database, findmypast (http://www.findmypast.com : 2012); citing Death, Croydon, Surrey, England, General Register Office, Southport, England.

Comments

Thanks Frank. I've just checked this on FreeBMD and his age is 0, so it's an infant death and not our man.

Answer 2

Edmund House

England and Wales Census, 1851

Name	Edmund House
Event Type	Census
Event Date	1851
Event Place	Reading St.Mary, Berkshire, England
Registration District	Reading
Residence Note	Howard Street
Gender	Male
Age	18
Marital Status	Unmarried
Occupation	Journeyman Carver And Gilder
Relationship to Head of Household	Son
Birth Year (Estimated)	1833
Birthplace	Cold Ash, Berkshire
Page Number	34
Registration Number	HO107
Piece/Folio	1692 / 204
Affiliate Record Type	Household

Household	Role	Sex	Age	Birthplace
Charlotte House	Head	F	45	Chieveley, Berkshire
Mary House	Daughter	F	15	Millbrook, Hampshire
Edmund House	Son	M	18	Cold Ash, Berkshire
Emily House	Daughter	F	13	Reading, Berkshire
William House	Son	M	10	Reading, Berkshire
Francis House	Son	M	6	Reading, Berkshire
Alfred House	Son	M	3	Reading, Berkshire

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England and Wales Census, 1851

Household ID	31490
Line Number	20
Digital Folder Number	101795727
Image Number	00398

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"England and Wales Census, 1851," database with images, FamilySearch(https://familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:SG8R-Y74 : 23 October 2017), Edmund House in household of Charlotte House, Reading St.Mary, Berkshire, England; citing Reading St.Mary, Berkshire, England, p. 34, from "1851 England, Scotland and Wales census," database and images, findmypast (http://www.findmypast.com : n.d.); citing PRO HO 107, The National Archives of the UK, Kew, Surrey.

Comments

Thanks, yes, I have the census entry. It's proving difficult to find his death record...

Answer 3

FreeBMD

Lydia Howse d. 1874 aged 4 Wandsworth Reg. District

Lydia Howse d. 1879 aged 46 Wandsworth Reg. District

But I agree no sign of Edmund or Edward House or Howse.

Comments

Thanks. I have the latter's death certificate. It is Edmund's wife. I've not obtained the former's death certificate but I guess it would have been a daughter of Edmund and Lydia's.

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The child matches the 1871 census.

The interesting recorded death is Edmund Cassam - right age, but surely it can't be?

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Cassam? Right age as you say, and right registration district, but it does seem a far push from Howse to Cassam as you suggest.

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What does wife Lydia's death certificate say? Who witnessed it and what, if any, indication does it give of her marital status? That might give some clues as to whether Edmund was still alive in 1879.

Something else to consider is whether Edmund may have left the family or even left the country, in which case you may need to be looking for a death later than 1881 and elsewhere. I have had a situation where my 3rd great grandmother was describing herself on the census as a widow while hubby was alive and well in another country with another woman.

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That's a thought. I hadn't thought of that. She is described as wife of Edmund, so the assumption would be that Edmund was still alive, although the informant was their son Chas E.

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Charles would only have been 20 then, so if he is the informant and she is shown as wife rather than widow, then that could be indicative of Edmund being away. There could have been a breakdown in the relationship or it may even be so simple as him having gone off, maybe abroad, to earn more money to support them or to pave the way for a family move later.

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I'd not thought of him going abroad. That could make finding him fun!

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It may be just a wild goose chase Graham, but I wouldn't rule out the possibility without considering it. My chap who was a carter from Newcastle, who I scoured England and Scotland for when hunting death records, finally popped up in Schenectady running an oyster bar ! Certainly makes it all good fun.

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I can't find him emigrating. There is one in the US in 1900 but he emigrated in 1845!

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I like the idea of him running off to run an oyster bar!

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Many thanks for checking, Martin.

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Martin. Long time, but I thought I'd take a long shot and get the certificate for Edmund Cassam but it doesn't seem to be my man! Worth a try though!