Is there any evidence for the Magna Carta parentage of Jane (Leche) Hunting?

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Robert Charles Anderson (the definitive source for PGM and possibly the GOAT of genealogists) wrote "The English Origin of John Hunting (1602-1689) of Dedham, Massachusetts" for the National Genealogical Society Quarterly v78 in June 1990.

In it, he points out that the 1567 marriage record for Roger Hunting with "Jania [Jane] Leche" is in Latin and no one is certain what surname is even meant by it. The closest he comes to identifying a family of origin for her is to point out that a Leach/Leech family existed in the vicinity. He does not name her parents.

Jane's profile on WikiTree (don't blame me, I just adopted it!) names an "Unknown (Massey) Leche" as her mother, who just happens to be descended from the Venables and Stanleys and so on back to Magna Carta surety baron William Malet, and William Leche as her father, who just happens to be descended from the Mainwarings and Venables and so on back to Magna Carta surety baron Robert FitzWalter.

I'm sure you'll be as shocked as I am that no evidence is provided in support of these claims.

Before I rashly disconnect them into the ether, is there any more recent research that would validate these or any other parents of Jane (Leche) Hunting?

WikiTree profile: Jane Hunting
in Genealogy Help by Cheryl Hammond G2G6 Mach 3 (33.9k points)

One of her descendants who immigrated is in the "Questionable Gateway Ancestors" category, which would indicate that the family is not documented by Douglas Richardson. I looked for Hunting in his Magna Carta Ancestry and did not find Jane. I did find mention of a Samuel Hunting, who married Hannah, daughter of Katherine Deighton and "Samuel Hackburne (or Hagborne) . . . who immigrated to New England, where they settled at Roxbury, Massachusetts." According to WikiTree's connections, Samuel is a direct descendant of Jane's son William, but the Magna Carta connection in Richardson is through Samuel's wife Hannah, not the Huntings.

Although Latin records in England often "Latinised" given names I've never seen an example where they attempted to translate the surname. I like the Leach/Leech theory.

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see

  http://www.thepeerage.com

cant get it to link to the right page but put in L in surname index and then to Leche.

according to this, Jane Leche married Thomas Booth and they had no children.
by Living Anonymous G2G6 Mach 3 (36.0k points)
selected by Cheryl Hammond

Excellent!  Those profiles on that site are sourced to Burke's Landed Gentry 1965 (the site's link to Burke's is broken because they've moved to a new URL which is Googlable).  The actual volume isn't available online, at least not to me, but let's assume the site reproduces Burke's accurately enough and that Burke's is a good reference with good sources, etc. (I've heard of it but I don't know anything about it).

I feel pretty confident that Jane (Leche) Booth cannot be the same person as Jane (Leche) Hunting:

  • The Leche/Massey and Booth families were of Pulford, Cheshire, literally the opposite side of England from the Huntings in Palgrave, Suffolk.
  • There are very few dates associated with any of the Leche/Massey and Booth profiles in those generations, but it seems like the Booth Jane is later than the Hunting Jane. Hard to say.
  • Jane (Leche) Booth seems to have died young without issue.
So she's not a totally bogus profile, she's just attached to the wrong spouse. I shall update accordingly.
 
Thanks so much for the tip!

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