Where do u find names of passenger's that died on ship before reaching USA

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Ship name the Francis Elizabeth from Rotteram England. Arrived in Philadelphia PA on Sept. 21 1742. The surname was Platscher. One survivor Michel Platscher he was 14 years old his parents died on the ship of fever. Look in for their names! Have been unable to get ship logs! Please help!!
asked in Genealogy Help by Sandy Todd G2G Rookie (280 points)
retagged by Ellen Smith
Thank you so much! Any info at this point will help.

3 Answers

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This is a a Palatine Migration ship. There are lists of the passengers who arrived in Philadelphia and took oaths of loyalty to Britain after arrival, but records of people who died on shipboard would be harder to come by. The category description for Category: Palatine Ships lists some of the main information sources.

Here's a transcription of the passenger list for the sailing of the Francis & Elizabeth that arrived on 21 Sept 1742: http://www.trailofourancestors.com/shplst27.htm

The name of Michel Pl├Ątscher appears on that list, but his parents aren't mentioned.

I've seen some additional accounts for some of the individual traverses of the ocean -- notably several of the sailings in 1738 (see The Ship Winter Galley for one such story). Maybe someone else has ideas on this particular ship's story.

You might want to join us in the Palatine Migration project, and I suggest creating a category for the profiles of people who arrived on this particular sailing -- you might be able to learn something from the biographies of other passengers.

answered by Ellen Smith G2G6 Pilot (865k points)
I started a category for the ship sailing that Michel arrived on. See https://www.wikitree.com/wiki/Category:Francis_and_Elizabeth%2C_Arrived_21_September_1742
Thank you!! I will check into these resources and we will keep our fingers crossed.
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For what it's worth, here are a couple of other sources for immigrants through the port of Philadelphia in that era.  I haven't checked for that particular name, and don't know if they'll provide any more info than Ellen has already provided, but they may come in handy at some point.

Egle, William Henry, M.D., Editor, "Names of Foreigners Who Took the Oath of Allegiance to the Province and State of Pennsylvania 1727 - 1775, With the Foreign Arrivals, 1786 - 1808," Vol. XVII, Pennsylvania Archives, Edwin K. Meyers, State Printer, 1892, pp 302-304. (Online at <http://books.google.com/books?id=iEAOAAAAIAAJ&printsec=frontcover&dq=Oath++of+Allegiance+to+Pennsylvania&hl=en&sa=X&ei=TM8hVILeG6aIsQSH4ICoBA&ved=0CB8Q6AEwAA#v=onepage&q=Oath%20%20of%20Allegiance%20to%20Pennsylvania&f=false>.)

Strassburger, Ralph Beaver, LL.D., "Pennsylvania German Pioneers, A Publication of the Original Lists of Arrivals In the Port of Philadelphia from 1727 to 1808," edited by William John Hinke, Ph.D., D.D., Volume 1, 1727 - 1775, Pennsylvania German Society, Norristown, PA (Online at <http://babel.hathitrust.org/cgi/pt?id=inu.30000007109121;view=1up;seq=15>, Public Domain, Google-digitized.)

answered by Dennis Barton G2G6 Pilot (226k points)
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Another problem is that Egle's book will show only the heads of households.  A family of 25 will have only the father taking the oath of allegiance.  Naturalization was granted to all within the family at the time of the father's pledge.

Back in the infancy of the Internet, I did find raw ships' manifests for entry at the port of Philadelphia, but I have been unable to locate the documents in the last decade.  Maybe I'll walk over to the National Archives and see if I can find the documents there.

I guess I should also state that the German national archives online are pretty good.  You might be able to find the info you need by looking at the names you already have.  IIRC this database is for individual gebiets so it may be necessary to check several databases for Germans emigrating.  Useful info from the "exit visa" includes age and profession.

answered by Kathy Rabenstein G2G6 Mach 2 (21.2k points)

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