Trying to determine if I have the right ancestor, Acadian or no..

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Fair warning: possible dumb questions ahead. :)

I recently added Marguerite Clémenceau as the wife of Jean Baptiste Lejeune and the mother of François Olivier Lejeune dit Briard, and I want to make certain I have the correct ancestor here, and am not making sloppy assumptions, especially before I attempt to add her parents!

My first encounter with her is as the mother of [[Lejeune-655|François Olivier]] (father to my third great-grandmother, [[Breard-47|Charlotte]]), at his first marriage to [[Forgues-105|Marie Françoise Forgues]], 12 Jul 1774 at St-Charles, Bellechasse.. She appears to be alive and is referred to as Marguerite Beaulieu. 

I do not find a birth record for François Olivier, but a range of 1744-49 fits the ages given on his marriage and burial records, leading me to wonder if he was born in Acadia (his father *appears* to have been born in Acadia, but he needs more research, too).

Next I find a burial record for a Marguerite Clémenceau, 24 Nov 1756, wife of Jean Baptiste Lejeune. It says ORIGIN: "Acadienne" and burial takes place at St-Jean, IO. Here's the FamilySearch typewritten transcription version. On the same day, a son of Jean Baptiste Lejeune, Victor, Acadian, is also buried.  If this is my ancestor, it would mean she was actually not alive and present at her son's wedding; OR this is simply not the right woman, but the wife of some other Jean Baptiste Lejeune.

Also: I have no marriage record for Jean Baptiste and Marguerite. 

I only recently discovered my links to Acadia (by way of Québec) and do not know a lot. So next I do some very basic Acadian history research on the internet -- secondary sources, of course -- just to get a feel for whether or not this family *really* came from Acadia. There  I find a reference to a Clémenceau family, including Marguerite. The patriarch was Jean Clemenceau dit Boileau, so the dit name adds up with what I have found for François Olivier's mother. According to this history, she does wind up in Québec and dies there, though the rest of her family are scattered.

Except if she dies in 1756, why does she seem to not be deceased in 1774 at her son's wedding? Or was she just named and it was not mentioned that she was deceased? Is that common?

A Marguerite Clémenceau was born in Port Royal in 1717 to Jean Clémenceau and Anne Roy; I found her birth record manually perusing Port Royal in the Drouin collection. I do not know where I might find a free source of this info to use as a source. So I do have some records, but are all my records for the same person?

Is Marguerite Beaulieau Marguerite Clémenceau? Is it a dit name, like I have it?



WikiTree profile: Marguerite Clémençeau
in Genealogy Help by Sara Thibault G2G4 (4.3k points)

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hi Sara,

to answer one of your questions, it often happens that the mother is not stated as deceased on marriage records, or the father for that matter.  Will take a look at her and let you know what I find.  If you are climbing into Acadian genealogy, lots of records were lost, so it's not as easy as in Québec.
by Danielle Liard G2G6 Pilot (334k points)
selected by Sara Thibault
ok, here's a start, Landry is pretty good for Acadian families:
ok, yes, she is definitely the same woman, her husband's funeral tells the tale, Jean Baptiste Lejeune dit Bréard is how he should be recorded, and his funeral lists her as Marguerite Clémenceau.  Have put some data on the family in her bio for you as well as possible places to look for more data.
I knew that a lot of Acadian records were lost, I was surprised to find her birth, and.. Wow! Thank you for all that, and those resources!. I wasn't sure of the spelling of Briard/Breard as I'd seen both variations... Wonderful!

Thank you once again!
I managed to find Victor's baptism in Drouin's Acadia - Families databank. He was born in 1752 and baptised about a month later on Île St-Jean. That's great, since it gives us a way to track the family's movements.
that's good, they seem to have left before the English shipped all those people all over the map.

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