This is what happens when you try to validate information that has been given you by different family members wishing to connect with someone of notiratity. (The Benton County AL Legislator John W. Turner died 1837) See there were children born to my Turner family after 1837. They have taken the marriage record of John W. Turner and Sarah Elizabeth Kants in Talladega, AL on the date of Nov 15 1877...not 1817!! This marriage is very likely to be part of our Turner lineage, but it is definitely not the parents of Matilda, born 1819, Jane b 1820, James b. 1822, William b. 1825, for this marriage took place well after the father died therefore it certainly cannot be him. This is the very reason I am trying to find source and documentation of the parents of this Turner family, or even their siblings. Census records show that Sarah/Nancy Turner can be found in 1850, 1860, 1870, 1880 either as head of household, or living in the household of her children. Census records indicate that Both Sarah and her husband were born in SC, as well as her first 4 children. Then the next place where a birth is recorded is in Gwinette County GA.for sons Simon Berry Turner, and twin brothers Little Berry Turner and Newberry Turner, But have come up with a brick wall when I try to find the proof and anmes of the parents, their parents or any siblings. Ths family married into the Vaughn, Campbell, THrower, Williamson, Harris, Teague, Tennison, Haywood, McDaniel, Harper/Hopper, Bell, Kelley, Ellis, But none of theselines have anthing any further back that I have been able to find. There is plenty of other genealogies out there that show this Turner line is connected to other Turner lines, but DNA halagroups show that they have been attached to lines that they are not connected to. Still Looking to find the information that will break down this wall. Any help and ideas are welcome.