Is Myrtle a Collins or Thurman? [closed]

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There are a few questions here:

For Myrtle, is she Myrtle Collins or Myrtle Thurman.

If she is Myrtle Collins, is anyone in this household related to Rachel Thurman?

 

I originally thought Myrtle was the daughter of Rachel Tripp Thurman because of 1910 Shannon Missouri census record. However, I am not sure they are related any longer.

For Rachel

https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:MLM3-JZT

For Myrtle

https://familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:MLM3-WLD

Both records have a child/grandchild listed as Clarence Fergason. Grandchild: Clarence J. Ferguson Child: Clarence Fergason


Both records also list a Charles Thurman 16/17 years old.

If anyone has any insight into how they might all be related I would be grateful. 

WikiTree profile: Myrtle Ferguson
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asked in Genealogy Help by Lance Martin G2G6 Mach 6 (68.8k points)
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Her maiden name was Collins. I posted her son's obit listing her maiden name.
answered by Doug Lockwood G2G Astronaut (2.4m points)
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Hate to throw a wrench in your research but...  Myrtle born in 1898 is the daughter of Minerva “Jennie” Carpenter Ferguson who married William Lee Mahan on 14 January 1898 in Shannon, Missouri.  Jennie was married prior to marrying William L Mahan.  She was married to a JS Ferguson on 8 February 1894 in Shannon, Missouri.  

On the 1910 census you see Jennie and William L Mahan and their two children; Myrtle and Goldie and Jennie's two children from the previous marriage; Clarence and Malinda Ferguson.   Myrtle Mahan, her daughter, married Edgar John Ripley on 11 November 1920 in Arkansas. You can find her on FAG here https://www.findagrave.com/memorial/125524706  and you might want to contact this person, she’s the one that posted the memorial, Peggykeele2015@gmail.com

Notice the other 1910 census with Andrew Ferguson and wife Myrtle... this Myrtle was born in 1888.  Jennie Mahan is on the 1910 census is Minerva Jane “Jennie” Carpenter Ferguson Mahan and the daughter of Rachel married name Thurman.  That’s all I have thus far… more to come.
Here's a thought, it's not that uncommon to see a young person, like your Charles Thurman, to be at his mother's house and later at his uncle or aunt's? house when the census taker came knocking.  Both census pages have the same date of 16 April 1910 but written by two different census workers.  Like you say, Charles is 16 on one and 17 on the other.
PS This question was not about the myrtle you researched. This question was about Myrtle Collins Collins-17880.

However, your research Finding Jennie's other husband Ferguson, cleared up who the parents of Clarence and his sister were.

Jennie's death certificate also tells you her mother Rachel Tripp was previously married to William Carpenter before she married unknown Thurman.  And if you had explored that line you'd have found that the relationship between this family of Myrtle Collins who married Andrew Ferguson and Rachel Tripp Carpenter Thurman's family is Andrew's mother was Mary Tripp the sister to Rachel Tripp Carpenter Thurman.  Rachel and Mary's parents are George Washington Tripp and Margaret Hancock (not sure of surname).  Look at the 1900; Census Place: Eminence, Shannon, Missouri; Roll: 903; Page: 3A; Enumeration District: 0115; FHL microfilm: 1240903

Yes all of these people have wikitree profiles.

I thank you for your help.

The problem is finding Anne's mother.

I do not like to change information unless I can prove it is correct.

There is no information anywhere that I have seen, which proves that Anne Thurman Heacox mother is definately Rachel Trip Thurman and not Rachel Thruman as the original source material for my research suggested.

It is my understanding that there could be two different Anne Thurmans, one who became Anne Heacox and one who did not.

There are definately two different Rachel Thurmans, both of which were of child bearing age to have a daughter named Anne.

What I need to find is a mention of Anne Heacox in an obiturary in one of Rachel Tripp Thurmans family.
This is especially true since Anne Heacox, thru a DNA match, would appear to be the granddaughter of Susan Strickland Thurman Strickland-3936
PS this question of Myrtle is actually answered.

The question of the parents of Anna can be found here:

https://www.wikitree.com/g2g/549504/who-is-the-mother-of-anna-heacox-thurman

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