Nesbit-147 needs to be deleted/retired/ is same person as Nisbet-461

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John Nisbet the martyr  should maybe be a ppp, being famous he is way too often connected to as an ancestor, because of family hearsay of being related to a famous person

With so many that believe they connect the last name is often changed to suit their line. So maybe Nesbit 147 should be noted as such and closed if possible or it will probably pop up again.
WikiTree profile: John Nisbet of Hardhill
in WikiTree Help by Living x G2G2 (2.1k points)
retagged by Living x

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I cleaned up his bio a bit, what he really needs is a bit or research and a well written bio. Not sure if he falls into a project which might add some protection.
by Jeanie Roberts G2G6 Pilot (141k points)
Possibly the United Kingdom Project, subproject the Scotland Project?
Did you look at Nisbet-461 this is same person and there are sources there The correct spelling is most likely Nisbet

The Nesbit entry comes from errors connecting the line of Thomas and Allan that are not his children and you have kept in the bio

This John on ancestry is the Nisbet that is included in load of lines he doesn't belong. Partly because of errors in older publications maybe he should be under religion

https://www.wikitree.com/wiki/Nisbet-461

 He was one of the Scottish covenanters

Children: listed for https://www.wikitree.com/wiki/Nesbit-147  -James of Edinburgh Castle Nesbit-Alexander Nesbit-Hugh Nesbit-Thomas Nesbit-Allen Nesbit

proof that this is wrong  and he has only had 4 children as https://www.wikitree.com/wiki/Nisbet-461

Only 4 known children

1679 only 4 known and living: daughter b.1664, James oldest son b. 1667, and Hugh and Alexander both younger than James---

"They met at the borough and offered 3,000 merks for him, 100 for my mother, and 100 for each of their four children, and threatened all the country under a great penalty no to harbor him, her, or any of us. 3p54 "

After the death of the parents only 3 sons Hugh James and Alexander survived as the daughter (see (2)) had died in 1683 "They had sentenced him to die upon Friday the 4th of December; and when the Day came, they did to him as they had determined He died in the 58 Year of his Age, and left three Sons, Hugh, James, and Alexander."

You might like to add the Scotland tag to your question to attract the attention of the Scotland Project.
Thanks Loads! Do I do that the same as on profiles?? Do I do it on my original question by editing??
On your original question above, there should be a little 'edit' link...
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Crucially important not to read too much into surname spellings. they constantly vary before, say, 1750. Many of the people mentioned in the charters and other mentions could not read or write and so could not spell their own surnames. These would be written down by scribes, usually clerics, who were listening to dictation by others, Depending upon the severity of the speaker's accent and how the scribe interpreted what he was hearing depended upon the surname spelling. Rather hit and miss.
by Gregory Lauder-Frost G2G6 Mach 1 (11.3k points)
Having done an extensive study of my paternal surname in Scotland, I've seen a good deal of inconsistency in surname spelling even into the 19th century.

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