Gauvin: are these the right parents?

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Just noticed that there are two 'sisters' with the same name in this St-Roch-des-Aulnaies, Quebec family: 

Marie Anne Gauvin [Gauvin-151] 1727-1780, married in 1748 to Jean-Baptiste Choret (various spellings) and had several Choret children according to Tanguay. 

And also her 'sister' Marie Anne Gauvin Dupere [Gauvin-110] 1729-1806, married in 1749 to Barthelemy Belanger. 

They don't seem like the same person over again, which could be solved by a merge. They don't seem like a case of a child dying young and a later sibling being given the same name.

I wonder if maybe one of them belongs in some other family.

Does anyone happen to know for sure? Tanguay seems to think they are actually sisters, calling Gauvin-151 'Marie-Anne' and also referring to another one (who might be Gauvin-110 because she marries Barthelemy Belanger,) as just 'Marie'. 

Would that be unusual, to have consecutive sisters named Marie Anne and Marie?



WikiTree profile: Marie Gauvin
in Genealogy Help by Shirlea Smith G2G6 Pilot (135k points)

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It appears that they are sisters. PRDH has them both listed as children of the same couple, Pierre Gauvin and M. Louise Dessein StPierre.

The baptisms have not been found so likely they were baptised with slightly different names and went by different names.

f Vers 1727 1748-11-04 1780-12-20 MARIE ANNE
  Lieu indéterminé (au Québec) St-Roch-des-Aulnaies Kamouraska [Family] JEAN BAPTISTE CHORET
f Vers 1729 1749-01-27 1806-05-05 MARIE ANNE
  Lieu indéterminé (au Québec) Ste-Anne-de-la-Pocatière Rivière-Ouelle [Family] BARTHELEMY BELANGER

The older one seems to have gone by Marie Anne (marriage and burial) and the younger by Marie or Marie Rose (Marriage and Burial).


by Dawn Ellis G2G6 Mach 8 (85.0k points)
selected by Shirlea Smith
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without even looking at them I can tell you that you cannot go by the given name to say if they are the same family, many families repeat and repeat names.  Have one family where 3 brothers have the same given name and all live to marry.  

But meanwhile, taking a look at this girl, no baptism found for her, and when I look at the records for her marriage, she is mostly called only Marie, with one instance of Marie Anne, one of Marie Angélique, and Marie Rose on her funeral.  Fixing up with some sources for her, but she is definitely not the same girl.


Oh, and just to make sure you are aware of it, Marie Anne is a complete name, there is no ''middle name'' in there.  Marie by itself is also a complete name, but Marie very very very often gets put with another name also, and the combination is considered a complete single name, what is known as composite name and in modern times gets hyphenated (Marie-Anne), but didn't back then.
by Danielle Liard G2G6 Pilot (333k points)
edited by Danielle Liard

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