Has any American researcher traced his ancestry back to "Rollo" (the 1st Duke of Normandy, France)? [closed]

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ROLLO was baptized and given the christain name Robert
Yes, BUT, the connection would come down through the Dukes of Glendonwyn to Clendenin, and the latter connection is fiction. The name connection is legitimate, but not, as presented, through a son of a latter Duke. If there is a connection, it would have to be through an earlier Duke. It was also a common practice of servants to take on the surname of their boss. . . . so . . . ?
Rollo was not a Norweigen, but a Dane.

According to Dudo of St. Quentin (writing early 11th century), Rollo was from Denmark.

According to the Icelandic Sagas written much later, Rollo was from Norway.

According to Richer of Reims, writing between 996 and 998, Rollo was the son of another Viking invader of France named Catillus (contradicting the Sagas which were written much later).

Every early source - Dudo, the Sagas, Richer of Reims, William of Malmesbury, Geoffrey Malaterra, etc. - can be shown to be highly flawed and untrustworthy.  Basically, we cannot say if Rollo was from Norway, or Denmark or any other area controlled by the Vikings of the time.  We cannot say who his parents were with even the slightest degree of certainty.  It is all a guess based on untrustworthy sources. 

We do not know when he actually arrived in France.  It is even incorrect to call him the Duke of Normandy, as is usually done.  He was the leader of the Vikings who established themselves around Rouen.  He was ceded extensive lands around Rouen, and so properly called Count of Rouen  or Princeps Nortmannorum (Leader of the Normans [of Rouen]).  This would grow over the next two to three generations to become the Duchy of Normandy, and his grandson or great-grandson is probably the first who should be properly called Duke of Normandy.

I guess Denmark is in the lead given that the Normans were pretty consistent about saying their chaps were from there in general, and also the Icelandic saga seems to be the more dubious of the named sources?

Dudo of St. Quentin is the only source which puts Rollo's origins in Denmark.  He wrote his History of the Normans at the behest of Rollo's grandson Richard I way before the Icelandic Sagas.  You might expect that since he was writing much closer in time to Rollo's lifetime and that he had full access to the court of the Duke of Normandy that he would be the most accurate.  However, he was more of a propagandist for the Normans and he can be shown to be wrong on so many details that there is not a single word which can be trusted.  This includes the Danish origins of Rollo.  There is reason to believe he was trying to establish a relationship between Richard I of Normandy and the kings of Denmark for political reasons, and that he did not actually know Rollo's origins.

But then again, maybe he did know?  No way to be sure, but Dudo is not a trusted historical reference.

From Rollo's profile at Geni.com 

Rollo Ragnvaldsson  MP

French: Robert RognvalssonNorwegian: Hrolf RagnvaldssonNorse, Old: Gange-Hrólfr Ragnvaldsson
Gender: Male
Birth: circa 860
Mære, Nord-Trondelag, Norway 
Death: 930 (65-75)
Rouen, Seine-Maritime, Haute-Normandie, France 
Place of Burial: Rouen Cathedral, Rouen, Haute-Normandie, France 
Name: Ragnvaldsson - only if you believe the Icelandic Sagas, which are centuries out-of-date, internally inconsistent, and contradicted by other records.  The name of his father is unknown.
Gender:  Correct.
Birth date 860: Complete guess based on nothing.  He was probably born a bit later.
Birth place: No evidence whatsoever.
Death date: Close but not known (died between 925 and 933).  He might have died as early as 925 (at the siege of Eu according to Richer of Rheims), probably died by 927, possibly died in 928, and was certainly dead by 933.
Death place: No evidence whatsoever.  The only account which gives him a place of death is the one that says he died at the siege of Eu, but this is doubted.
Burial place: Maybe, probably not.  The tomb of Rollo in Rouen Cathedral was built many centuries after his death.  If he is there, it is not much of him; the tomb is said to contain one thigh bone.
Rollo was my 34th times great grand father, but I live in New Zealand
Hi, I'm Canadian but yes I have traced my ancestors back to William the Conqueror and back to Rollo.

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33rd great grandfather
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Yes, 34ggf
by Living Anderson G2G6 Mach 7 (79.4k points)
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Please! close this thread! it's from 2012 as it is...
by Ros Haywood G2G Astronaut (2.0m points)
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Yes...he is my 31st great grand father on my mother's side.
by Eric Smith G2G1 (1.6k points)

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