I uploaded my GEDmatch file in February but I have no matches here on WikiTree.

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Is that even possible? Am I looking in the right place?

I have 1000+ 4th cousins or closer on Ancestry and dozens on GEDmatch. I have lots of second cousin matches on ancestry so I was hoping to find the same or others here.

I'll be the first to admit I don't understand WikiTree, My father is unknown and I am trying to find who he was.
in Genealogy Help by Anonymous Anonymous G2G Rookie (220 points)

Last name: Shea

SDB Popularity ranking: 3352

This interesting name is of Anglo-Saxon origin, and may be either a topographical or a locational surname. As a topographical name, Shaw was used for someone who lived by a copse, wood, or thicket, derived from the Old English pre 7th Century "sceaga", copse, small wood. As a locational surname, Shaw is derived from any one of the numerous small places names Shaw, from the Old English "sceaga", such as those in Berkshire, Lancashire, and Wiltshire. Shaw in Berkshire is recorded as "Essages" in the Domesday Book of 1086, that in Lancashire as "Shaghe" in 1555, and the place in Wiltshire as "schaga" in the 1167 Pipe Rolls of the county. The development of the surname includes Richard de la Schawe (1275, Worcestershire), John ate Shaw (1295, Essex), and William Bithe Shaghe (1333, Somerset), and the modern forms of the name range from Shaw(e), Shay and Shay(e)s to Shave(s) and Shafe. One of the most notable bearers of the name was George Bernard Shaw (1856 - 1950), who was born in Dublin into a Protestant family established in Ireland by William Shaw a captain in William 111's army, who went there circa 1689. The first recorded spelling of the family name is shown to be that of Simon de Schage, which was dated 1191, in the Berkshire Pipe Rolls, during the reign of KIng Richard 1, known as "Richard the Lionheart", 1189 - 1199. Surnames became necessary when governments introduced personal taxation. In England this was known as Poll Tax. Throughout the centuries, surnames in every country have continued to "develop" often leading to astonishing variants of the original spelling.



Read more: http://www.surnamedb.com/Surname/Shea#ixzz5D4NbHn4d

There is one other person at WikiTree with Karpowich as a last name. 

If you go to "Find" at the top right of the page and drop down to "Surname" you should be able to find it. 

In looking for the name is Philadelphia, there are a few:

Betty Jane Karpowich

[Betty R Karpowich]

United States Public Records, 1970-2009

birth:

4 March 1924

residence:

15 November 2007

Philadelphia, Pennsylvania, United States

   
Bill Karpowich

[William Karpowich, Bill A Karpowich, William A Karpowich]

United States Public Records, 1970-2009

birth:

15 December 1936

residence:

13 November 2000

Whitehall, Pennsylvania, United States

   
Mary R Karpowich

United States World War II Army Enlistment Records, 1938-1946

birth:

1920

PENNSYLVANIA

military service:

8 February 1943

Philadelphia, Pennsylvania, United States

   
George A Karpowich

United States World War II Army Enlistment Records, 1938-1946

birth:

1920

PENNSYLVANIA

military service:

27 February 1942

Philadelphia, Pennsylvania, United States

   
Richard A Karpowich

United States World War II Army Enlistment Records, 1938-1946

birth:

1928

PENNSYLVANIA

military service:

6 February 1946

Philadelphia, Pennsylvania, United States

   
Alexander Karpowich

United States World War I Draft Registration Cards, 1917-1918

birth:

27 March 1880

, ,

draft registration:

from 1917 to 1918

Philadelphia City no 37, Pennsylvania, United States

    
Anna Karpowich

Pennsylvania, Philadelphia City Death Certificates, 1803-1915

birth:

1887

Austria

death:

18 February 1915

Philadelphia, Philadelphia, Pennsylvania

burial:

20 February 1915

father:

Jan

mother:

Marya

  
Karpowich

Pennsylvania, Philadelphia Marriage Indexes, 1885-1951

marriage:

1897

spouse:

Elizabeth Carey

  
Karpowich

Pennsylvania, Philadelphia Marriage Indexes, 1885-1951

marriage:

1944

spouse:

Charles J Arenth

  
Dolores M Karpowich

Pennsylvania, Philadelphia Marriage Indexes, 1885-1951

marriage:

1944

spouse:

Arenth

  
Charles Karpowich

Pennsylvania, Philadelphia Marriage Indexes, 1885-1951

marriage:

1897

spouse:

Carey

  
Konstanty Karpowich

Pennsylvania, Philadelphia Passenger Lists, 1883-1945

birth:

1883

Russia

immigration:

1911

Philadelphia, Philadelphia, Pennsylvania, United States

    
Mary Karpowich

United States, GenealogyBank Obituaries, 1980-2014

 

other:

Charles J Dinger, Helen T Or One Rajca, John Dinger

Thank you for your help, Frank. My grandfather was the only known family member to have come from Russia in or around 1916. His mother and sisters stayed in Russia and his father was deceased.

5 Answers

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Welcome to Wikitree.

You cannot upload any raw DNA data to Wikitree. Wikitree does genealogy and is creating one global family tree.

Yes there is a steep learning curve when you have just joined wikitree, but once you get past that, then you are a member of a great group of genealogists.

If you want to find your unknown father you can upload your raw data to Gedmatch and to FT-DNA and possibly to My Heritage.

There are however volunteers here at Wikitree who can help you look for and maybe find your father. They are called adoption angels and you can find them here.

https://www.wikitree.com/wiki/Project:Adoption_Angels

The DNA details you see on various profiles are the links to those who have taken DNA tests. The other details include kit numbers and ID numbers from various DNA testing companies as well GEDmatch.
by Robynne Lozier G2G6 Pilot (850k points)
I uploaded my raw file from Ancestry to GEDmatch in January and then uploaded my GEDmatch kit to FTdna and WikiTree back in February. Isn't that what I am supposed to do?

edited to add dates of when I uploaded my GEDmatch file here and on FTdna.
Upload raw DNA data to GEDmatch and FT DNA - yes

Upload to Wikitree - NO
I uploaded my GEDmatch file to WikiTree in February and what I originally said in my question title up above.

I don't understand why you keep repeating about a "raw dna file"? It's confusing because I never said anything about uploading a raw dna file to WikiTree.
What did you download from Gedmatch? The DNA file or the family tree?

The DNA file cannot be uploaded to Wikitree. The family tree can.

I didn't realise that Gedmatch does allow Gedcoms to be downloaded. i thought they only dealt with DNA matches.

If it was the Gedcom that you uploaded from GEDmatch, then I apologsie for the confusion.

Gedcoms are not automatically added to the Global family tree here at Wikitree.

You would have had to go through your Gedcom file and compare each person to profiles here on Wiktiree, to decide if they were the same or not.The program that does that here on Wikitree is called GEDcompare.
+2 votes

Madeline C Shea

United States Public Records

Name Madeline C Shea
Residence Date 01 Sep 2006
Residence Place Phila, Pennsylvania, United States
Birth Date 30 Aug 1946
Address Phila, Pennsylvania 19136
Address Date 01 Sep 2006
2nd Address Philadelphia, Pennsylvania 19136
2nd Address Date 13 Nov 2000
3rd Address Philadelphia, Pennsylvania 19136
3rd Address Date 01 Jul 1969-25 Mar 2008
Possible Relatives Gerard P Jr Shea
Record Number 130795843

Citing this Record

"United States Public Records, 1970-2009," database, FamilySearch (https://familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:KR5S-JXN : 23 May 2014), Madeline C Shea, Residence, Phila, Pennsylvania, United States; a third party aggregator of publicly available information.

by Frank Gill G2G Astronaut (2.1m points)
+2 votes

Gerard Shea

United States Public Records

Name Gerard Shea
Titles and Terms (Original) JR
Also Known As Gerard Shea
2nd Also Known As Name Gerald P Shea
3rd Also Known As Name Gerard P Shea
Residence Date 13 Nov 2000
Residence Place Philadelphia, Pennsylvania, United States
Birth Date 04 Jul 1940
Address Philadelphia, Pennsylvania 19136
Address Date 13 Nov 2000
2nd Address Philadelphia, Pennsylvania 19092
2nd Address Date 01 Sep 1994
3rd Address Philadelphia, Pennsylvania 19136
3rd Address Date 01 Jul 1969-25 Mar 2008
Possible Relatives Madeline C Shea
Record Number 130787271

Citing this Record

"United States Public Records, 1970-2009," database, FamilySearch (https://familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:KR5S-CCS : 23 May 2014), Gerard Shea, Residence, Philadelphia, Pennsylvania, United States; a third party aggregator of publicly available information.

by Frank Gill G2G Astronaut (2.1m points)

Gerard Shea

United States Census, 1940

Name Gerard Shea
Event Type Census
Event Date 1940
Event Place Ward 3, Scranton, Scranton City, Lackawanna, Pennsylvania, United States
Sex Male
Age 18
Marital Status Single
Race (Original) White
Race White
Relationship to Head of Household (Original) Son
Relationship to Head of Household Son
Birthplace Pennsylvania
Birth Year (Estimated) 1922
Last Place of Residence Same House

Household

Role

Sex

Age

Birthplace

Benjamin Shea Head M 45 Pennsylvania
Lourdes Shea Wife F 45 Pennsylvania
Gerard Shea Son M 18 Pennsylvania
James Shea Son M 9 Pennsylvania
Helen Kearney Sister-in-law F 40 Pennsylvania

Citing this Record

"United States Census, 1940," database with images, FamilySearch (https://familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:KQZZ-GMZ : accessed 18 April 2018), Gerard Shea in household of Benjamin Shea, Ward 3, Scranton, Scranton City, Lackawanna, Pennsylvania, United States; citing enumeration district (ED) 71-19, sheet 6B, line 77, family 115, Sixteenth Census of the United States, 1940, NARA digital publication T627. Records of the Bureau of the Census, 1790 - 2007, RG 29. Washington, D.C.: National Archives and Records Administration, 2012, roll 3682.

image

View the original document. The original may contain more information than was indexed.

United States Census, 1940

 

Shea is not really my surname. My mother's boyfriend (later a husband) at the time just allowed her to list me as the father on my birth certificate. My name would actually be "Karpowich", but I can't even find that name on the WikiTree.
That would be because noone from the family of Karpowich has added any family tree to Wikitree. You appear to be the first.
The first and last I guess, I am all that is left of the name.But what of all of my second cousins? I searched for some I know of the family I have found on Ancestry from my father's side. Wouldn't at least some of them show up here if they are all on GEDmatch?
NO. Sorry.

Wikitree has absolutely NO connection to GEDmatch at all. There is also NO connection between Wikitree and any of the DNA testing companies.

Karpowich sounds like a Polish or possibly a slavic name so you may want to start looking in Poland or eastern europe.
So you are saying there is no expectation of finding any relatives on WikiTree?
converting to an "answer" :)
Apparently someone is very confused because even just today they are claiming you should upload your kit to WikiTree to "get even more matches". That is why I logged in today.

I have been building two trees on Ancestry for the past 4 months. One to my known history from my mother's side and the other from my father's side, which I am learning from my newly found second cousins. I have been able to find the ancestral connection for us but with so many cousins and so little time left for me on this earth I think I will just concentrate on that.
Aahh That's where the confusion is.

GEDCOM and GEDmatch are 2 completely different things!!

You can upload a GEDCOM to Wikitree but not the raw DNA results.

A GEDCOM is the genealogical family tree that one creates in various genealogy software programs and the GEDCOM is the protocol by which those family trees can be transferred between different computers and software programs.

I would suggest that you convert your fathers tree on Ancestry to a Gedcom and upload that gedcom to wikitree - and then you might find some relatives - if they are already here.

I uploaded my GEDmatch Kit to WikiTree when they requested it for DNA confirmation back when I registered here on Wikitree back in February.

As far as I know from my registration on WikiTree you first download your raw DNA from Ancestry to GEDmatch, then upload that converted file to WikiTree,( which from Ancestry.com becomes a kit number starting which A------  and has 6 numbers after the A.)

I don't have a GEDcom file, I know that is a family tree file and haven't downloaded or uploaded a tree anywhere yet.

My apologies again.

OK the Kit number you entered for your Gedmatch is just that - the kit number. That's why you have the DNA tested badge.

I would suggest that you read the following DNA help pages and maybe you can learn how the GEDmatch ID numbers work.

https://www.wikitree.com/wiki/Help:DNA_FAQ

https://www.wikitree.com/wiki/Project:DNA

You might also still want to contact the Adoption Angels - they usually know a lot about how to use DNA to find missing parents.

https://www.wikitree.com/wiki/Project:Adoption_Angels

My own journey with DNA is just beginning. My test is currently on its way to the lab to be tested, but I have read heaps and I thought I understood most of how it worked.

The phrase "uploading the gedmatch to wikitree" is confusing. If you had stated the Gedmatch ID then I would have understood what you meant.

I apologise for any confusion I may have caused.

As for the no relatives part, if no relatives from your family have added any profiles to wikitreee, then no, there won't be any matches.

But as Dennis mentioned below, you are more than welcome to invite your cousins  to add their profiles and other family members to wikitree. Just remember that each person can only have ONE unique profile.
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Its possible that some of your cousins you've discovered on GedMatch and Ancestry, may have created their own profiles here on WikiTree. But its also just as likely that they've not yet heard of WikiTree -- you can invite them :)
by Dennis Wheeler G2G6 Pilot (533k points)
+1 vote

Madlyn,

‚ÄčIn answer to your original question,"Am I looking in the right place?"

The simple answer is No.  Wikitree is not a DNA matching site such as Gedmatch, FTDNA, or 23&Me.  It can not provide dna matches for you since it holds no actual dna files.

The confusion seems to be coming from the statements about uploading.  According to your Wikitree contributions, you have not uploaded anything. You entered your gedmatch test Information (ie the Kit number) in February.  You added yourself and your mother at that time.

Wikitree makes suggestions as to others who might hold a connection based on the genealogical information from their family twig in the big tree. Your twig does not yet have anything much for it to suggest.

by Karen Raichle G2G6 Mach 7 (72.0k points)

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