Ann Beaupre, wife of Nicholas Wright (1609-1682), should be Ann Unknown. Thoughts? Objections?

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The wife of immigrant Nicholas Wright has been called Ann Beaupre, but she needs to be changed to Ann Unknown

  • Torrey's New England marriages; "WRIGHT, Nicholas (1609-1682) & Ann [BEAUPRE]; by 1630; ... {NYGBR 2:12, 3:44, Reg. 44:215, 55:381; Austin: GDRI 51; Wright (1923) 133; Frost 19; Winthrop-Babcock 71; Carpenter (1901) 52; MD 14:168; Shotwell 235, 239, 241; Cocks (ed 2) 292, 364; Townsend #5 59-61; Cole (1887) 92}"
  • [BEAUPRE] in the brackets indicates, there was a source but no confirming record.
  • A search of each of Torrey's sources showed that the only source referring to Nicholas' wife as Beaupre was The Frost Genealogy p. 20.
  • "Nicholas was the son of John, who married Ann, daughter of Edmund Beaupre, and heir to Beaupre Hall in Norfolk, England. He was born 1609 ..."
  • Where did that come from? NYGBR 3:44 "The Wright Family of Oyster Bay, L.I. by John J Latting."
  • "John Wright ... He had two sons, Edmund, his heir, and Nicholas. They married sisters, daughters and co-heirs of Edmund Beaupre of Beaupre Hall in Norfolk. ... Nicholas by his wife, Anne Beaupre, was the father of five children, from one of whom, there is reason to believe, came the immigrant brothers..."
  • It is obvious this was misunderstood by the author of the Frost Genealogy, resulting in Nicholas the immigrant being married to Ann Beaupre instead of Nicholas some possible ancestor.
  • A look at p. 34 Visitations of Norfolk confirms that an earlier Nicholas Wright married not only Ann Beaupre but also her sister Catherine.
WikiTree profile: Ann Wright
in Genealogy Help by Anne B G2G Astronaut (1.1m points)
edited by Anne B
Anne, there are no dates on that visitation page.  How do you know when it was?
The NYGBR Reference says that John the father of Nicholas died in 32nd year of the reign of Henry VIII, so that would be around 1541, too far back to have a son Nicholas who was immigrating.

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According to p 571 of The Ancestors of Henry Rogers Winthrop and his wife Alice Woodward Babcock Anne Beaupre was married to Nicholas Wright; Nicholas "died prior to 1567." Nicholas Wright b. 1609 was the great-grandson of that couple and he was married to Ann _____. 

Based on the available documentation, I concur that she should be listed as Ann Unknown.

by Karen Fuller G2G6 Mach 1 (18.6k points)
edited by Karen Fuller

Does Nicholas Wright have royal ancestry?  I am a descendant of his daughter, Mercy (Wright) Coles.  Her child Tamar married Capt. Nathaniel Carpenter, Sr. of N. Y. and R. I.  They're the ancestors of Joseph Carpenter, Sr., emigrant to Botetourt County, Va.  Later, the Carpenters went to W. Va.

 

I have a disputed link between Joseph and my seventh great-grandfather, Pvt. Jeremiah "Jerry" Carpenter, Patriot in the Battle of Point Pleasant.  He was a grandson, but it was either Pvt. Solomon Carpenter or his brother William that sired him.

·  ID: I16390

·  Name: Jeremah Carpenter 1

·  Sex: M

·  Birth: ABT 1755 in Augusta county , Va. 1

·  Death: ABT 1832 1

·  Birth: ABT 1755 in Big Bend of the Jackson River, Augusta Co. , Va. 1

·  Death: ABT 1832 in Randolph Co. , Virginia 1

·  Note: [Carpenter-0.FTW] From: Richard Carpenter Date: 12 May, 1999 5:08 PM About early writers: Andrew Scott Withers Chronicles of Border Warfare Wrote nearer to the time than most others-tradition handed down from generation to generation must be accepted as near fact Reuben Gold Thaites Stated that Withers is a leading authority for his informants possessed full knowledge of what occurred within their own horizon. Also says Withers was a faithful recorder of local tradition, but did not search for or have access to contemporary documents. He says the Indian raid which carried off Jeremiah occurred in 1763 William Connelley Sept. 1902 Interviewed William J. Carpenter John Davidson Sutton History of Braxton County Sutton reports Connelley interview with William J Carpenter Says Solomon, brother of Jeremiah was at Solomon's birth p 360 says Jeremiah's father was William p 361 says Wm.. was killed in 1764 Oren F. Morton History of Allegheny County, Annals of Bath County Mentions William Confused with Joseph being Jeremiah Lucullus Virgil McWhorter The Border Settlers of Northwest Virginia Not always factual Wills DeHass History of Early Settlements and Indian Wars of Western Virginia repeats above writer's information Jeremiah Carpenter was born ca 1755 in Augusta County VA. He died after 1830 in Nicholas County, VA. He was captured in an Indian raid in 1764. He was reported to be about 9 years old and was returned about 9 years later in 1773. He lived for a time at the Carpenter hunting camp between Laurel Creek and Meadow River, near Gauley River. He held 50 acres on Howard's Creek, near White Sulphur Springs, in Greenbrier County. He joined Captain John Lewis's Company along with his brothers Thomas, John and Solomon. They were at the Battle of Point Pleasant in 1774. In 1779, Jeremiah Carpenter (of Greenbrier) purchased 160A from Moses Mann, but was swindled and subsequently sold the property to Thomas Hughart. He is listed in Summer's "Annals of SW VA" 9/15/1780 jury duty. He was shown on 1782 personal property Allegheny Cty. and was on a list of tithables Botetourt and head of families in 1783, but had already removed to the Elk River Area by virtue of Treasury Warrant issued 18 June 1782. He was married to Elizabeth Hamm on Mar. 8, 1785 in Greenbrier Baptist Church, Alderson, VA(WV). They had a daughter Lyhua(Libby). On August 3, 1786, a survey was made for Jeremiah Carpenter on Elk River-Harrison Cty. Survey Records Vol. 3. In 1789, Jeremiah Carpenter Land Grant on Elk and Holly Rivers. In 1790, 12 Sept. Benjamin married Ruth Jeffers. In 1790, Solomon Carpenter was born to Jeremiah and Elizabeth. In 1792, Mar. 12 Benjamin C. Shown as bearer on Randolph County Survey Book 1. In 1792, Benjamin and wife were killed by Indians. In 1796, Sutton reports in pocket diary of trip to Elk River to Jerry Carpenters, 6 years after the massacre of Benjamin and boy Solomon about 6 years old. He then dates the massacre in 1792. John D. Sutton says Carpenters settled at mouth of Holly River about 1789 or 1790. Sutton stopped on the way to Jeremiah Carpenter's at a Carpenter home on Laurel Creek(I think this was brother Solomon). Land Entry Book for Greenbrier County by Helen S. Stinson also shows Jun 1778, Solomon Carpenter Sr. assigns 400 A in Greenbrier Cty. Also shows adjoining land assigned by Solomon Carpenter Jr. Shows land on Howard's creek adjoining Nicholas Carpenter's old survey. There is much contention as to the ancestry of Jeremiah Carpenter. Sutton, Withers and DeHass show William Carpenter as father of Jerermiah. So does O. F. Morton. Sutton says Thomas, Jeremiah, Solomon and Joseph were brothers who served in the Revolution. Annals of Bath County shows Jeremiah, John, Solomon and George at Pt. Pleasant. Sutton shows Enos, Amos, Jesse, Jeremiah, Joseph, Solomon, Nancy, Libby and mother of Jeremiah in the massacre story. Others contend that a Solomon was father of Jeremiah. Records prove that a Joseph Carpenter settled on the big bend of the Jackson River in 1750. Morton says that Joseph came from New York with Peter Wright in spring of 1746. Morton says " there were so many Carpenters of the second and third generation that we cannot wholly separate the families of the two brothers Solomon and Joseph. In the book, David Glasburn-VA Pioneer, by Oma Glasburn Robinson, a certified genealogist, the author traces Zophar Carpenter to Robert Coles Carpenter, but cannot trace Joseph or Solomon. In Oyster Bay Town Records, Vol.'s ll, 1691-1704, Joseph Carpenter, son of Joseph Carpenter of Musketa Cove, late deceased, was born 16 Oct. 1685. In Aug. 1748, Joseph Carpenter, moving, sold Oyster Bay lot to Jacob and William Walton. Also, on 15 Mar. 1748, Joseph Carpenter of Springfield near Jerico, sold to Thomas Hendrickson. There is much evidence that Joseph came direct from Oyster Bay to Jackson River. He was in Oyster Bay with the Harrisons who came to VA earlier and the Wrights, who came with him to Jackson River. It is mentioned in "Settlers by the Long Grey Trail" that one of the early Augusta County Harrisons returned to Oyster Bay because there was not a Friend's Meeting House in old Augusta. Many of the Oyster Bay residents moved to North Castle, Westchester County in 1736 at the time of the great Quaker migration from Long Island. A ferry was established between Rye and Oyster Bay in 1739. It has not been proven that Joseph is a son of Nathaniel, neither have the families mentioned in Jackson River been found in Westchester County. There is a lot of misinformation being distributed on the Web by searchers who have picked up on bad sources. I hope the above dissertation will help someone who is looking for facts on their Carpenter ancestry. Submitted by Richard L. Carpenter 474 Live Oak Trail NE Cleveland, TN 37323 Email to " thecarponline@email.msn.com " SAR membership no. 124610

 

SOURCES ON JEREMIAH CARPENTER'S FATHER:

 

Sutton's History of Braxton County says William died on Jackson River
Also shown in DeHass' History of Early Settlement and Indian Wars of Western VA
Also shown in Wither's Chronicles of Border Warfare and Dodrill's Moccasin Tracks and other imprints

Pretty sure they married into my family. It makes sense. The Wrights came from a background where they were Knighted for years, and had tons of money. I've see her name several times too looking at past documents. More places than that one place. There were also a bunch of Nicholis's too.

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