Trying to find the correct John Heath as father to Thomas Robert Heath

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Thomas Robert Heath emigrated to Australia in 1849 aboard the Ascendant. His birth certificate states that his father is John Heath, a stonemason and his mother's name is Hannah. I know Thomas was born in Stoke Newington, England 14 Jun 1823 and baptised at St Marys, Stoke Newington. 9 of his siblings were also baptised at St Marys, Stoke Newington. Another relative of mine thinks that there were 4 siblings born around St Pancras after the parent's marriage before they moved to Stoke Newington. 

Further research has found a will on ancestry.com that mentions a brother Henry, a corn factor as an executor. 

Theories include that Hannah Harwood born 27 JUL 1786 in Southwark could be a possible mother to Thomas but I am yet to find out who the correct John Heath as father is. 

I am wondering if others with more genealogical experience and or live in the 'mother land' can help me nut out this seemingly dead end. 

 

EDIT: I guess my real stumbling block is finding the birth details of John Heath (stonemason) that has a brother Henry Heath (cornfactor).

Italicised more info added after the original posting.

WikiTree profile: John Heath
in Genealogy Help by Shelley Heath G2G Crew (970 points)
edited by Shelley Heath

Possible based on birth of first child ??

 

John Heath

 in the Manchester, England, Marriages and Banns, 1754-1930 (Cathedral)

 

      Name: John Heath
      Marriage Date: 22 May 1809
      Parish: Manchester, St Mary, St Denys and St George
      Spouse's Name: Hannah Makin
      Archive Roll: 691

      Source Information

      Ancestry.com. Manchester, England, Marriages and Banns, 1754-1930 (Cathedral) [database on-line]. Provo, UT: Ancestry.com Operations, Inc., 2013.

       

      3 Answers

      +1 vote
      There are a number of Thomas Heath's and Robert Heath's with parents named John and Hannah in England. Do you see one that seems more likely to be correct based on your understanding?

      Thomas Heath

      England Births and Christenings, 1538-1975

       

      christening: 1 October 1796 Christian-Malford, Wiltshire, England

      father: John Heath

      mother: Hannah  

      Thomas Heath

      England Births and Christenings, 1538-1975

       

      christening: 26 October 1777 Siston, Siston, Gloucester, England

      father: John Heath

      mother: Hannah  

      Thomas Heath

      England Births and Christenings, 1538-1975

       

      christening: 10 June 1827 BRAMSHALL, STAFFORD, ENGLAND

      father: John Heath

      mother: Hannah  

      Thomas Heath

      England Births and Christenings, 1538-1975

       

      christening: 30 May 1778 SAINT MARY, READING, BERKSHIRE, ENGLAND

      father: John Heath

      mother: Hannah  

      Robert Heath

      England Births and Christenings, 1538-1975

       

      birth: 1779

      christening: 1779 ST. JAMES, WESTMINSTER, MIDDLESEX, ENGLAND

      residence: 1779 Westminster, London, England

      father: John Heath

      mother: Hannah  

      Robert Heath

      England Births and Christenings, 1538-1975

       

      birth: 1771

      christening: 1771 ST. JAMES', WESTMINISTER, MIDDLESEX, ENGLAND

      residence: 1771 Westminster, London, England

      father: John Heath

      mother: Hannah  

      Robert Heath

      England Births and Christenings, 1538-1975

       

      christening: 14 September 1835 CHESTERFIELD, DERBY, ENGLAND

      father: John Heath

      mother: Hannah  

      Thomas Heath

      England, Cheshire Parish Registers, 1538-2000

       

      christening: 19 June 1808 , Witton-cum-Twambrooks, Cheshire, England

      residence: 19 June 1808 , Witton-cum-Twambrooks, Cheshire, England

      father: John Heath

      mother: Hannah  

      Thomas Heath

      England, Derbyshire, Church of England Parish Registers, 1537-1918

       

      christening: 21 October 1855 Chesterfield, Derbyshire, England, United Kingdom

      father: John Heath

      mother: Hannah Heath    

      Thomas Heath

      England, Kent, Parish Registers, 1538-1911

       

      christening: 15 July 1824 Cliffe at Hoo, Kent, England

      father: John Heath

      mother: Hannah Heath    

      Robert Heath

      England, Staffordshire, Church Records, 1538-1944

       

      baptism: 23 May 1829 Bramshall, Staffordshire, England, United Kingdom

      father: John Heath

      mother: Hannah Heath  

      Thomas Heath

      England, Staffordshire, Church Records, 1538-1944

       

      baptism: 10 June 1827 Bramshall, Staffordshire, England, United Kingdom

      father: John Heath

      mother: Hannah Heath  

      Thomas Heath

      England, Staffordshire, Church Records, 1538-1944

       

      baptism: 17 August 1834 Cauldon, Staffordshire, England, United Kingdom

      father: John Heath

      mother: Hannah Heath    

      Thomas Heath

      England, Staffordshire, Church Records, 1538-1944

       

      baptism: 17 August 1834 Cauldon, Staffordshire, England, United Kingdom

      father: John Heath

      mother: Hannah Heath    

      John Thomas Harrison Heath

      England, Staffordshire, Church Records, 1538-1944

       

      birth: 12 April 1875

      baptism: 10 October 1875 Horton, Staffordshire, England, United Kingdom

      father: John Heath

      mother: Hannah Heath    

      Thomas Heath

      England Births and Christenings, 1538-1975

       

      christening: 21 October 1855 St. Mary and All Saints, Chesterfield, Derbyshire, England

      residence: Chesterfield, Derbyshire, England

      father: John Heath

      mother: Hannah  

      Thomas Heath

      England Births and Christenings, 1538-1975

       

      christening: 1827 BRAMSHALL, STAFFORD, ENGLAND

      residence: Bramshall, Staffordshire, England

      father: John Heath

      mother: Hannah  

      Thomas Heath

      England Births and Christenings, 1538-1975

       

      christening: 10 June 1827 Bramshall, Stafford, England

      residence: Bramhall, Cheshire, England

      father: John Heath

      mother: Hannah  

      Robert Heath

      England Births and Christenings, 1538-1975

       

      christening: 23 May 1829 Bramshall, Stafford, England

      residence: Bramhall, Cheshire, England

      father: John Heath

      mother: Hannah  

      Thomas Heath

      England Births and Christenings, 1538-1975

       

      christening: 15 July 1824 Cliffe, Kent, England

      residence: Cliffe, Kent, England

      father: John Heath

      mother: Hannah
      by Frank Gill G2G Astronaut (2.2m points)
      Specific birth year, marriage year and location for father and or for the son would be a major help to narrow down the scope of the research. Location could be church of baptism or marriage as well as county and or city.

      I know that Thomas Robert Heath was born on June 14, 1823 and was baptised at St Mary's Stoke Newington. There is an excerpt of his baptism details on his profile that I have linked. 


      I am pretty this is John Heath's burial details... 

      Name: John Heath
      Age: 57
      Record Type: Burial
      Birth Date: abt 1781
      Death Date: abt 1838
      Burial Date: 15 Jun 1838
      Burial Place: St Mary, Stoke Newington, Hackney, England
      Register Type: Parish Register

      London Metropolitan Archives; London, England; Reference Number: P94/MRY/037

       

       

      +2 votes

      John Heath

      mentioned in the record of John Heath and Hannah Harwood

      Name John Heath
      Spouse's Name Hannah Harwood
      Event Date 24 Mar 1803
      Event Place Old Church,Saint Pancras,London,England

      Citing this Record

      "England Marriages, 1538–1973 ," database, FamilySearch(https://familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:NKP5-L62 : 10 February 2018), John Heath and Hannah Harwood, 24 Mar 1803; citing Old Church,Saint Pancras,London,England, reference , index based upon data collected by the Genealogical Society of Utah, Salt Lake City; FHL microfilm 598,179.

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      England Marriages, 1538–1973

      Indexing Project (Batch) Number M04793-7
      System Origin England-ODM
      GS Film number 598179
      by Frank Gill G2G Astronaut (2.2m points)

      Hannah Harwood;s parents:

      Hannah Harwood

      England Births and Christenings

      Name Hannah Harwood
      Gender Female
      Christening Date 20 Aug 1786
      Christening Date (Original) 20 AUG 1786
      Christening Place SAINT OLAVE,SOUTHWARK,SURREY,ENGLAND
      Birth Date 27 Jul 1786
      Father's Name Thomas Harwood
      Mother's Name Elizabeth

      Citing this Record

      "England Births and Christenings, 1538-1975," database, FamilySearch (https://familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:NYNT-M46 : 11 February 2018, Hannah Harwood, 27 Jul 1786); citing SAINT OLAVE,SOUTHWARK,SURREY,ENGLAND, index based upon data collected by the Genealogical Society of Utah, Salt Lake City; FHL microfilm 375,309, 375,310.

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      England Births and Christenings, 1538-1975

      Indexing Project (Batch) Number C02272-7
      System Origin England-ODM
      GS Film number 375309, 375310

       

      Thank you for that, I had found that already, although not attached it yet until I was certain. I guess my real stumbling block is finding the birth details of John Heath (stonemason) that has a brother Henry Heath (cornfactor).
      +1 vote
      Assuming you are correct, then Hannah Harwood married John Heath 24 March 1803 Old Church St Pancras.
      by anonymous G2G6 Pilot (256k points)

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