Need someone to follow my line of thoughts please

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I'm working on filling my tree outwards...cousins etc and I've run across a person being enumerated in the Census twice before, but this one is new on me.   I'm using Ancestry  and working on McClellan-1695.

Per the SS Application and Claims index.  for Dorothy Marian Ward (not entered yet) her parents were Ernest W War and Cora F McClellan.

The Minnesota, Births and Christening Index 1840-1980 give Cora Frances McClellan born 1 Dec 1886 in St Paul, Ramsey, Minnesota the daughter of George and Ellen.

1900 Census for New Canada, Ramsey, Minnesota has Family 174, George McClellan and his wife Ellen, 8 children including Cora age 12

1910 US Census on 4 May 1910 for District 0019, New Canada, Ramsey had George (born New York), Ellen, his wife and 9 children, including Cora age 23 and Florance age 21.

Another page of the Census taken on 25th of Apr 1910 in Ward 4, St Paul, Ramsey, Minnesota William Mankey with wife Cora, age 23 (father born in New York), son Joseph 1 year, and sister-in-law Florence McClellan, age 21.

What are the odds that these are 2 different family or that they are the same.   Everything that I see points that they are the same family.

Cora apparently divorced William Manke (had 3 children), married Ernest Ward (had 4 children) he died and she married a William Grover/Gruver and then married William Schultz.  

I just need another person to see if my thinking is correct.
WikiTree profile: Cora Schultz
asked in Genealogy Help by Cindi Clark G2G6 Mach 1 (18.5k points)

2 Answers

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I've seen this happen before. It's usually because the person giving the information is simply listing all of the children of the head of household instead of only those still living with them. Florence and Joseph are also ostensibly living in two households.
answered by Deb Durham G2G6 Pilot (641k points)
I've seen it too but usually under other circumstances, because they want to know who is living in the household at the end of a previous month and the child just got married.   I've checked and rechecked, the ages of all the children, the parents birth places and ages, and everything seems to indicate that this is the same person and family.   Thanks for looking at it for me.
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I can't speak for the U.S. but a census normally records those people present in a particular abode on the night on which the census-taker records the information. (In Australia, the details are recorded for everyone with reference to where they are/were on the same, specified night.)

From your information, it appears that Cora, husband William Manke, son, Joseph, and sister-in-law, Florence, were together in St Paul on April 25. 

The second entry for 1910, records Cora at the home of her parents (in New Canada) on May 4  - 9 days later.  Just visiting?  Highly possible/likely?

 

answered by Peter Knowles G2G6 Mach 6 (64.8k points)
That's the way it usually is here is the US too.   Usually it is under other circumstances, because they want to know who is living in the household at the end of a certain time period, The child just got married etc..  In this case the daughter is listed as Single in her parents household, but she is married with one child in her husband's house.  I've checked and rechecked, the ages of all the children, the parents birth places and ages, and everything seems to indicate that this is the same person and family.   Thanks for looking at it for me.

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