What information should be included on a regional category page?

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If I was looking at profiles and saw that it had a category of Kökar, what would I expect if I went there? I would expect to see that it was a Parish/Municipality in the Åland Region of Finland an a collection of profiles associated with Kökar.  I also think that I would like to see a link to WikiPedia's information about Kökar.  If there was a lot of additional information, I would expect an internal WikiTree link to an About Kökar page.

Do we have an official categorization answer to this?  I, personally, would like to see the WikiPedia link included.

asked in Policy and Style by Norm Lindquist G2G6 Mach 4 (45.9k points)

3 Answers

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It should be categorised into the next larger administrative unit.

I find it helpful to give a one-or-two-sentence explanation of where and what it is - rather like the first sentence or two of the corresponding Wikipedia article. This makes it easier for someone to know if they are looking at the category they think they are. I would follow the brief description with a Wikipedia link for deeper information about the place (region or town).

If the place has a history society or other websites or clubs specific to that place that would be useful for research about the people who lived there, links or names and contact details should be included. Preferably their web site and corporate details, not the name of the current secretary and their facebook page.
answered by Scott Davis G2G6 (8.5k points)
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The feeling among categorization project members is moving in this direction:

1.  There should be information, roughly a paragraph, on the category page as to what the category is about, what it is a part of, what the subcategories are, what project is associated with it, and what profiles should be linked to it.  

2.  Often there is much more information appropriate to link to a category.  This should appear on a linked free-space page.

3.  The major consideration involved is that the purpose of the category is so a person can see what profiles are grouped under it, and a person may seek this information multiple times.  The person should not have to scroll down several pages of information each time he or she wants to see what profiles are grouped under the category.

4.  I express this as a feeling, because it has not yet been codified as a policy, to my knowledge, but we are moving in this direction!
answered by Jack Day G2G6 Pilot (238k points)

Actually, on the Categorisation FAQ it states that;

Should there be content on category pages?

Categories are used to group other pages together. Almost no content should go on category pages. For example, if a category groups people buried in a particular cemetery and there is general information about the cemetery, it should go on a free-space profile and the category page should link to it. 

And that is what Finland Project use as reference for the project's suggestion of category standards within the project. Since the parish categories will have info in 3 languages it will be very short in each language.

Edit: Link to Categorisation FAQ

On the Category: Tenhola (Tenala) page I would include

  • from Wikipedia: Tenala (Finnish: Tenhola) is a former municipality in Uusimaa, Finland.

I would delegate more information to a free space page.  I believe the link to Wikipedia is important.

On the Category: Kökar page I would include

  • From Wikipedia: Kökar is an island municipality to the south-east of the Åland archipelago, Finland.

and relegate other information to a free space page.

Jack.  Would you comment on providing an external link, such as to Wikipedia, on the Category page.

Norm, the categories in Project Finland that is supposed to hold the profiles is for the parishes, not the municipalities. It's in the parishes that the church books are kept, at least until modern times.

There might, in some instances, be more than one parish in a municipality.

Norm, I would stand by my statement;  I think the current instructions are not clear in the implication that ALL information about a cemetery be put on a free space profile.  

The point is really whether you go over a paragraph or so, and it's about taking up space that gets in the way of people scrolling down to see the profiles themselves on the page.  And I think the information I outlined in the note above is all important to have on a category page, and it can be presented briefly.

And when Wikipedia has already done a good job of providing descriptive information, there's no need to re-invent the wheel.  And links to Wikipedia have been made super-simple;  If the Wikipedia article is called "Garden of Eden", all you need for a link is [[Wikipedia:Garden of Eden]].  The amount of space that takes up should not bother anyone.
Jack, that was a short and really good way to link to Wikipedia.

How would one write the link to a page in another language like Swedish or Finnish?
Maggie, the device is to put a colon inside your brackets.  So assume you are on the Suomi category page.  You can enter a sentence, "In English, [[:Category: Finland]].  The colon turns this into a link and the category does not appear on the top of the page.  On the Finland category you can put the reverse, but I don't know how to write "In Finnish" in Finnish!
Sorry, I was not being clear enough...

I meant how to link to Swedish Wikipedia and Finnish Wikipedia about the information for example of Kökar. If we have the link to English Wikipedia we should also have the links to Wikipedia in the two other languages as well.

I tried adding "sv" before and after the word "Wikipedia" in your example but that did not work. How would I write for a short link to this page about Kökar in Swedish? Example https://sv.wikipedia.org/wiki/K%C3%B6kar
Maggie, you'll have to get one of the technical people to answer that!
I have edited the [[Category: Kökar]] page for you. I added one line which I think does what you asked for.

WIkipedia: [[wikipedia:Kökar|English]] [[wikipedia:sv:Kökar|Swedish]]

Scott
+2 votes

I think there's a real benefit to using a standard template here.

Ales has come up with a place category template, which includes fields that defines the parent category, and can link to a free space profile, to GPS coordinates (in maps), to previous and succeeding (historical) places, to Wikidata, and several other features. I've been using the template, along with a descriptive hatnote, on my categories:


https://www.wikitree.com/wiki/Category:Perry%27s_Cove%2C_Newfoundland_Colony

The discussion we had before he created the template is here: 

https://www.wikitree.com/g2g/571534/should-using-category-templates-categoryinfobox-metadata

And the space for the infobox is here:

https://www.wikitree.com/wiki/Space:CategoryInfoBox

answered by Brad Foley G2G6 Mach 3 (35.2k points)
edited by Brad Foley

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