William Holterman born 1874 Bow, Middlesex

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Who can help me trace [[holterman-33|William Holterman]]  born in Bow M'sex, England in 1874 Accountant by profession
He might have married around 1900 becuase I find a census entry in St Paul Deptford togeterh with a Charlotte and their child Olga

Son of George Frederick William Holterman born in Hamburg Germany (1842)  and Elisa Pearce Towl of Devon (1850) who married in 1869 In Stoke Damerel, Devon  they had 8 children
I can find census data before 1881  but the family might have been lving abraod in Hannover germany

He might have married around 1900 becuase I find a census entry in St Paul Deptford togeterh with a Charlotte and their child Olga

Census data for 1911 show William using his fathers name ( george frederick William) while visiting his sister ( Shand family) in Greenwich .

Between 1911 and 1926 i can't find a trace of William Holterman (b.1874) until he turns up in Antwerp Belgium in december 1926.
There is no trace of him after 1930, not in Antwerp nor elsewhere, but I assume he left Antwerp before the german invasion in 1940

can any one help
WikiTree profile: William Holtermann
in Genealogy Help by Derek Giroulle G2G6 Mach 1 (10.7k points)

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William Holterman

England and Wales Census, 1881

Name William Holterman
Event Type Census
Event Date 1881
Event Place West Ham, Essex, England
Registration District West Ham
Residence Note Brownlow Rd Leyton Rd
Gender Male
Age 7
Marital Status (Original) Single
Occupation Scholar
Relationship to Head of Household Son
Birth Year (Estimated) 1874
Birthplace London, Middlesex, England
Page Number 68
Registration Number RG11
Piece/Folio 1723/36
Affiliate Record Type Household

Household

Role

Sex

Age

Birthplace

William Holterman Head M 39 Harburg, Germany
Eliza Holterman Wife F 30 Weston ?, Devon, England
Emily Holterman Daughter F 10 Hanover, Germany
Lottie Holterman Daughter F 9 Hanover, Germany
William Holterman Son M 7 London, Middlesex, England
Ernest Holterman Son M 5 London, Middlesex, England

Citing this Record

"England and Wales Census, 1881," database with images, FamilySearch (https://familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:Q27D-9NZK : 12 December 2017), William Holterman in household of William Holterman, West Ham, Essex, England; from "1881 England, Scotland and Wales Census," database and images, findmypast (http://www.findmypast.com : n.d.); citing p. 68, Piece/Folio 1723/36, The National Archives, Kew, Surrey; FHL microfilm 101,774,662.

by Frank Gill G2G Astronaut (2.3m points)
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All the family births I could find:

HOLTERMANN, GEORGE  FREDERICK WILLIAM      TOWL
GRO Reference: 1874  M Quarter in POPLAR  Volume 01C  Page 687

HOLTERMANN, ERDWIN  ERNEST ALFRED      TOWL
GRO Reference: 1876  M Quarter in POPLAR  Volume 01C  Page 714     Order

HOLTERMANN, ETHEL  EVELINE JESSIE      TOWL
GRO Reference: 1883  M Quarter in WEST HAM  Volume 04A  Page 8     Order

HOLTERMANN, VERA  LILIAN MAY      TOWL
GRO Reference: 1886  J Quarter in WEST HAM  Volume 04A  Page 20

HOLTERMANN, IDA  MARGUERITE       TOWL
GRO Reference: 1888  J Quarter in WEST HAM  Volume 04A  Page 21

HOLTERMANN, CARL  HERMANN       TOWE
GRO Reference: 1890  M Quarter in WEST HAM  Volume 04A  Page 232

HOLTERMANN, LESLIE  ADOLF       TOWL
GRO Reference: 1893  M Quarter in GREENWICH  Volume 01D  Page 1173

You can find all these entries on the FreeBMD site.
by Matthew Fletcher G2G6 Pilot (107k points)
edited by Matthew Fletcher
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The 1901 census in Deptford shows his wife's name as Beatrice, not Charlotte.

"England and Wales Census, 1901," database, FamilySearch (https://familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:X9DJ-7D2 : 8 April 2016), Olga B Holterman in household of George W F Holterman, St Paul Deptford, London, Middlesex, England; from "1901 England, Scotland and Wales census," database and images, findmypast (http://www.findmypast.com : n.d.); citing Deptford South subdistrict, PRO RG 13, The National Archives, Kew, Surrey.

 

Their daughter, Olga Beatrice Holterman was registered in Greenwich in the last Quarter of 1899, Mother's maiden name is Briden:

HOLTERMANN, OLGA  BEATRICE     BRIDEN  
GRO Reference: 1899  D Quarter in GREENWICH  Volume 01D  Page 1076 

The marriage of Beatrice Elizabeth Briden and George FW Holterman also took place in Greenwich in the second Quarter of 1898.

"England and Wales Marriage Registration Index, 1837-2005," database, FamilySearch (https://familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:269S-HSG : 13 December 2014), Beatrice Elizabeth Briden, 1898; from “England & Wales Marriages, 1837-2005,” database, findmypast (http://www.findmypast.com : 2012); citing 1898, quarter 2, vol. 1D, p. 1832, Greenwich, London, England, General Register Office, Southport, England.

It looks like he died in 1951 in Luton, Bedfordshire

"England and Wales Death Registration Index 1837-2007," database, FamilySearch (https://familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:QVCX-W9YF : 4 September 2014), George F W Holterman, 1951; from "England & Wales Deaths, 1837-2006," database, findmypast (http://www.findmypast.com : 2012); citing Death, Luton, Bedfordshire, England, General Register Office, Southport, England.

by Brenda Butler G2G6 Mach 4 (42.3k points)

And Beatrice is with her Mother in the 1911 census in St Paul, Deptford, but her Mother is also originally from Devon.

"England and Wales Census, 1911," database, FamilySearch (https://familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:XWRC-H1N : 1 August 2017), Beatrice E Holterman in household of Emma Heard Briden, St Paul Deptford, Brockley S E, London, England; from "1911 England and Wales census," database and images, findmypast (http://www.findmypast.com : n.d.); citing PRO RG 14, The National Archives of the UK, Kew, Surrey.

 

Olga is visiting another family:

"England and Wales Census, 1911," database, FamilySearch (https://familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:XWWK-54H : 2 August 2017), Olga Beatrice Holterman in household of Harry Russell Palmer, Ashford, Ashford, Middlesex, England; from "1911 England and Wales census," database and images, findmypast (http://www.findmypast.com : n.d.); citing PRO RG 14, The National Archives of the UK, Kew, Surrey.

 

And a possible remarriage for Beatrice Elizabeth Holterman in 1919


"England and Wales Marriage Registration Index, 1837-2005," database, FamilySearch (https://familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:262Q-68Z : 13 December 2014), George W Sodeau and null, 1919; from “England & Wales Marriages, 1837-2005,” database, findmypast (http://www.findmypast.com : 2012); citing 1919, quarter 3, vol. 4A, p. 388, West Ham, Essex, England, General Register Office, Southport, England.

 

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Information on Beatrice Elizabeth's birth and her Mothers (Emma Herd Powe) info:

   
BRIDEN, ELIZABETH  BEATRICE     POWE   <-- Mother's maiden name
GRO Reference: 1874  M Quarter in LAMBETH  Volume 01D  Page 355 

BRIDEN, EMMA  CAROLINE     POWE   
GRO Reference: 1875  S Quarter in LAMBETH  Volume 01D  Page 337 
 
 
Emma Head (Heard in 1901) Pow (Powe) birth reference:

"England and Wales Birth Registration Index, 1837-2008," database, FamilySearch (https://familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:2NS2-57V : 1 October 2014), Emma Head Pow, 1839; from "England & Wales Births, 1837-2006," database, findmypast (http://www.findmypast.com : 2012); citing Birth Registration, Bideford, Devon, England, citing General Register Office, Southport, England.


And Emma in the 1841 census with her family in Devon:

"England and Wales Census, 1841," database with images, FamilySearch (https://familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:MQT1-PG8 : 13 December 2017), Emma Pow in household of John Pow, Bideford, Devon, England; from "1841 England, Scotland and Wales census," database and images, findmypast (http://www.findmypast.com : n.d.); citing PRO HO 107, The National Archives, Kew, Surrey.

On the 1861 census in Gloucestershire as a Nursemaid:

"England and Wales Census, 1861," database with images, FamilySearch (https://familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:M7LN-DGB : 12 December 2017), Emma Powe in household of Maria Crowley Whiting, Stroud, Gloucestershire, England; from "1861 England, Scotland and Wales census," database and images, findmypast (http://www.findmypast.com : n.d.); citing PRO RG 9, The National Archives, Kew, Surrey.

She married William Frederick Briden in 1868 in London:

"England and Wales Marriage Registration Index, 1837-2005," database, FamilySearch (https://familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:2DK5-XWX : 13 December 2014), Emma Herd Powe, 1868; from “England & Wales Marriages, 1837-2005,” database, findmypast (http://www.findmypast.com : 2012); citing 1868, quarter 4, vol. 1B, p. 870, Strand, London, England, General Register Office, Southport, England.

 

by Brenda Butler G2G6 Mach 4 (42.3k points)

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