can not find him anywhere in census records

+2 votes
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I have found a birth marriage and death for Frank Monger but not in census records that I am comfortable with

If I can find his parents I will be on a role :)

Birth, Marriage and death below

  1.  "England and Wales Birth Registration Index, 1837-2008," database, FamilySearch (https://familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:2XGG-HZ9 : 1 October 2014), Frank Monger, 1885; from "England & Wales Births, 1837-2006," database, findmypast (http://www.findmypast.com : 2012); citing Birth Registration, Fulham, London, England, citing General Register Office, Southport, England.
  2.  "England and Wales Marriage Registration Index, 1837-2005," database, FamilySearch (https://familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:2DXB-RTS : 13 December 2014), Frank Francis Monger, 1908; from “England & Wales Marriages, 1837-2005,” database, findmypast (http://www.findmypast.com : 2012); citing 1908, quarter 2, vol. 4A, p. 1835, Woodbridge, Suffolk, England, General Register Office, Southport, England.
  3.  "England and Wales Death Registration Index 1837-2007," database, FamilySearch (https://familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:QVCS-9S6M : 4 September 2014), Frank F Monger, 1948; from "England & Wales Deaths, 1837-2006," database, findmypast (http://www.findmypast.com : 2012); citing Death, Windsor, Berkshire, England, General Register Office, Southport, England.
WikiTree profile: Frank Monger
in Genealogy Help by Steph Meredith G2G6 Mach 8 (82.3k points)

4 Answers

+4 votes

1911 England and Wales Census

Frank Monger

England and Wales Census, 1911

Name Frank Monger
Event Type Census
Event Date 1911
Event Place Hintlesham, Hintlesham Ipswich, Suffolk, England
County Suffolk
Parish Hintlesham
Sub-District Capel St Mary
Registration District Samford
Gender Male
Age 26
Marital Status (Original) MARRIED
Occupation HORSEMAN ON FARM
Birth Year (Estimated) 1885
Birthplace Henley, Oxfordshire
Relationship to Head of Household Head
Line 1
Page 1

Household

Role

Sex

Age

Birthplace

Frank Monger Head M 26 Henley, Oxfordshire
Margaret Monger Wife F 35 Hollesby, Suffolk
May Monger Daughter F 2 Sutton, Suffolk
Francis Monger Son M 0 Heveningham, Suffolk

Citing this Record

"England and Wales Census, 1911," database, FamilySearch(https://familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:X7G2-RY4 : 2 August 2017), Frank Monger, Hintlesham, Hintlesham Ipswich, Suffolk, England; from "1911 England and Wales census," database and images, findmypast(http://www.findmypast.com : n.d.); citing PRO RG 14, The National Archives of the UK, Kew, Surrey.

 

by Frank Gill G2G Astronaut (2.3m points)
+4 votes
Well, since you have found his birth registration, maybe you could go to GRO Services (like I showed you on the Orphan Trail), where the record should have his mother's maiden name.

Then on FreeBMD you could look for a marriage between a Monger and a whatever-her-name is, and you would have a rough idea of the date because of Frank's birth, and and and...
by Ros Haywood G2G Astronaut (1.2m points)
+4 votes

This 1891 London Census has parents, Alfred and Annie Monger.

Father was born in Pamber, Hampshire, England. 

Mother was born in Cornwall, England

Frank Monger

England and Wales Census, 1891

Name Frank Monger
Event Type Census
Event Date 1891
County London
Parish Hammersmith
Ecclesiastical Parish ST LUKES
Registration District Fulham
Residence Note Cobbold Road
Gender Male
Age 5
Occupation Scholar
Relationship to Head of Household Son
Birth Year (Estimated) 1886
Birthplace England
Page Number 23
Registration Number RG12
Piece/Folio 41/ 149

Household

Role

Sex

Age

Birthplace

Alfred Monger Head M 29 Pamber, Hampshire, England
Annie Monger Wife F 34 Cornwall, England
Alfred D Monger Son M 7 Hammersmith Shepherds Bush, England
Frank Monger Son M 5 England
Fredk A Monger Son M 4 England
Mabel Monger Daughter F 0 England
Andrew Monger Brother M 23 Pamber, Hampshire, England

Citing this Record

"England and Wales Census, 1891," database with images, FamilySearch (https://familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:3PPS-XMM : 11 December 2017), Frank Monger in household of Alfred Monger, Hammersmith, London, England; from "1891 England, Scotland and Wales census," database and images, findmypast (http://www.findmypast.com : n.d.); citing PRO RG 12, London county, subdistrict, The National Archives of the UK, Kew, Surrey.

by Frank Gill G2G Astronaut (2.3m points)
That's the one. Annie Prior was his mother.

In 1901 they are listed under MONGE.
+3 votes
Frank F Monger reports a date of birth of 20 August 1885 in the 1939 register therefore he cannot be the Frank Monger whose birth is recorded in Q2 1885. You've therefore already gone wrong.

There is another Frank Monger in Islington in 1939 who was born 26 April 1885 and is married to Ethel. This is almost certainly the one born in Fulham.

Also the fact that Frank Monger's profile is set to Private makes it a little harder to help you.
by Matthew Fletcher G2G6 Pilot (107k points)
Thank you to all of you and I have now opened his profile

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