Pre-1500 PPP profile without any project involved?

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This profile is listed as a child of Harald Bluetooth and I would like to disconnect him. My guess is that is is possibly meant to be a profile of Herfast de Crépon in Normandie and he was not a son of Harald Bluetooth (as we know of today).

But before removing the connection as father and son, I bring it up for discussion in the forum since it has PPP,  although no project to take care of the profile.

Why do I care at all about these old profiles? Because WT is being the source of other trees on other sites, therefore I think it's important that WT profiles and connections be as correct as possible. (And it seems that a viking is a must-have-assessoar for many, many family trees on different sites but none bother about the accuracy.)

WikiTree profile: Unknown de Crépon
in Policy and Style by Maggie Andersson G2G6 Pilot (156k points)
edited by Maggie Andersson
You might want to change your question to "Who was the father of Harald de Crepon?" Then share the sources and summarize the evidence for/against the current father.

This profile might have been protected under the care of a project before it was required that a) we have project accounts and b) that they be added as profile manager.

Herfast seems to be known only as the brother of the Countess Gunnor.  Could be half-brother, on either side.  No clue to their parentage seems to have ever been found.

The Henry Project's Gunnor page isn't written yet.

http://fmg.ac/Projects/MedLands/normacre.htm#_Toc492794592

The fictitious "Harald de Crepon" is clearly a disconnected ancestor of Herfast, invented as part of a bogus attempt to descend Gunnor from Viking royalty.  There are different versions of the junk all over the internet.  The dates are all over the place as well.

 

I was afraid I had protected the profile because I remember working on a Herfast or Herbastus de Crépon just this weekend (with all that trying to add dates to profiles without dates) but no, it wasn't me.

The project protection was set some time ago by Katherine, apparently because she recognized the profile as a member of nobility and wanted to protect the name from being changed to DeCrépon, De_Crépon or something like it. The relevant project would be pre-1500 European Aristocrats.

FindAGrave would tell us Gunnor herself was a Princess

https://www.findagrave.com/memorial/122567064/gunnora-of_normandy

The old story about Richard meeting the forester's daughter in the woods must be all wrong then.  In those days you knew a Princess when you saw one.

Of course this also makes Gunnor a sister of Forkbeard, and it means Canute and his wife Emma were 1st cousins.

 

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