How to handle comments on profiles that appear to not be helpful?

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Notable figures can solicit comments on their profiles that do not appear to adhere to our standard:

How should we proceed when finding these?

WikiTree profile: John Steinbeck
in Policy and Style by William Foster G2G6 Pilot (121k points)
If the comments aren't offensive and don't violate our Honor Code, they should be left for the profile manager(s) to decide whether or not to keep comments live those on the referenced profile.

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I don't mind them. Hate all wallpaper though.
by Chase Ashley G2G6 Pilot (312k points)
I would actually prefer wallpaper on every profile, behind the print. That is the way I always did my webpages before wikitree.
If the wallpaper is subdued and stretched so as to not repeat, I don't mind it. When it is too bright or lacks contrast to the black color of the text, it detracts from the written word, it is obnoxious.

The contrast is important for those with visual deficencies, as an example, where all of the colors become shades of gray.

My backround is in teaching, and anything that confuses or hides the message is counterproductive.
I agree, we should be cognizant of those with visual disabilities.  Perhaps the wallpaper feature could be adjusted to avoid such issues arising?  Can you suggest such a solution Terry?

It would take a modification of the programming to stretch the wallpaper to fit the full size of the screen, and the screen size varies by device and orientation. Perhaps disable it on mobile devices with a style sheet.

In general, the contrast or visibility of a wallpaper can be modified in the style sheet as well, sort of a fading if the image by giving it a percentage of transparency. These terms I am using are terms that HTML programmers use when creating the style sheet (CSS) that a web page uses to display the various tags on a page.

Let me throw out my two cents on decorating a profile, if I may. According to our standards, colors, shapes, bold, underline and italic text should not be used if the editor must use HTML tags to produce the effect. I have seen so many pages where the decorations take away from the purpose of what we are trying to do here. Images that flash or change, text that scrolls like a marque are examples. Lines between sections and fancy scrolls are another. Some folks like them, but they do little to make the page readable and nothing to help with accuracy, one of our goals. Here is an example of what I am referring to. Note the various style used on the page.

For me the wallpaper does scan the whole window and I'm on a 4K screen, so that is already taken care of.

What is motivation for disable on mobile?

I agree don't want noisy pages with moving text, etc.
Mobile devices do not have the same pixel ratio high vs wide and the orientation can change with the user turning the device wideor tall. That makes the background image look funny as it stretches one way and not the other. If not stretched, you get repeating images based on actual screen width. The profile above has this issue on my 17" monitor as it has a fragment of the left side of the image repeated on the right side.

Some 'flip phones' have such small screens, it does not show up, and including the graphic uses bandwidth and slows loading.
I am a teacher with an art degree. The print should stand out from the background, but I miss being able to wallpaper all my profiles like I did in the late 90s when I had free webspace with Roadrunner, and coded in html.
Interesting comment about mobile devices. I always thought cell phones had too small a screen, even now, so I never bothered to get one. My ten inch tablet is barely big enough, and my next tablet will have at least a 12 inch screen.
To me mobile screen is the wrong direction, I use 4K screen with 39 inch diagonal, which results in a different set of issues.

Exactly what I am describing. Some users use smart phones with a wide view, others hold it vertical to scroll the view.

This page has two style sheets:

https://www.wikitree.com/g2g/qa-theme/WikiTree/qa-styles.css?1.7.0

and

https://www.wikitree.com/css/main-new.css
You can read the style sheet by saving the page and  opening it in a text editor program.

These style sheets set text size in pixels. 

example:

body,td,input,textarea {font-size:13px; font-family:Verdana, Arial, sans-serif;}

Some style sheets use percent of a base size and others use points for size with 72 points being 1 inch tall.
If you can provide a specific recommendation to narrow the discussion, it would be good, but I think a new question needs to be opened.  You can link to it from a comment in this question.
William, I offered my expertise on this some time ago. I also offered my skills on templates as I have created hundreds of them at Wikipedia where I have edited six thousand articles. I was bluntly put in my place and told that only leaders can do that. After being snubbed, my feelies got hurt and I lost interest in being that helpful. I am not sure I want to deal with bureaucrats any more.

On edit.

I code in HTML, PHP, Python, and a dozen more languages. Owned my own server and hosted dozens of professional web sites. I am retired now.

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