The first day I connected too a members branch thankfully. The branch needed and still needs a lot of work but it has very much improved due too hard work and collaboration since I joined in July last year. My great aunt who is still alive at age 94(so she is not on wikitree)recorded her parents and grandparents on her fathers side,and has photos of her grandparents on her fathers side.Same with her brother Laurel who is my grandfather and the only grandparent That I had a close relationship with, growing up he told me many stories about him and his parents and grandparents,as well with photos. And I was thankfully able to verify the records of the people listed on my great aunts bible page too be correct.The ball started really rolling fast with her Grandmother "Mirillia(Youngs)Sherman" whose husband "Henry Justice Sherman" I know the parents of and want too start working on his line as well.
As for my fathers line It's smith in 1800's New York so yeah,without leads can't verify any further into his line,the wives maiden names did not even help.