Right, Thanks Wayne. 15 yrs and cant bust him back to his folks. Ive also done the CT/ PA controversies. Im trying to come in at a diff angle. Ive considered that if Mary Ellen was his mother, (1st dau trad), It could help clue me in as to his parents. Harrison is correct. Do you have any insight on the Merrick, Merrill son? I use the Merrick to research. An unusual name. Thanks.