duplicate? Kerr-1765&1728

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same marriage and death, different birth&parents
WikiTree profile: Andrew Kerr
in Genealogy Help by Tim Prince G2G6 Mach 3 (34.5k points)
retagged by Lynda Crackett

4 Answers

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Kerr-1728 was merged in 2013 with an orphaned profile! Elizabeth (Wilson) Guthrie - are you *sure* you meant Kerr-1728?
by Ros Haywood G2G Astronaut (1.2m points)
Ah you beat me to it!
+2 votes
It looks like Kerr-1728 has been merged into another profile named Elizabeth (Wilson) Guthrie.  And It looks like Kerr-1728 originally was named Elizabeth (Kerr) Guthrie.  

Are you sure Kerr-1728 is the correct profile?
by D. Botkin G2G6 Mach 3 (34.3k points)
Sorry, it's Kerr-2578 and Kerr-1765 which match in marriage and death.
+2 votes
I doubt very much that they are the same person. Kerr-1765 would have been five years old when he married Agnes Crichton!

Much more research is needed here, not a merge.
by Ros Haywood G2G Astronaut (1.2m points)
+2 votes

ThePeerage.com shows these lines, citing Burke 2003 (which seems to get its info from the internet)

http://www.thepeerage.com/p1490.htm#i14895

According to which, Andrew Ker of Cessford d 1481 had Walter, son and heir, by his 1st wife, and Thomas by his 2nd wife.

Thomas, 1st of Ferniehirst, had the Andrew who married Janet Home.  This Andrew died in 1545.

Walter married Agnes Crichton and had a grandson Andrew (d 1526) who married a different Agnes Crichton on the same date.  This might not be quite right.

by Anonymous Horace G2G6 Pilot (568k points)

According to this page

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Clan_Kerr

the two Andrews were both Wardens of the Marches, one after the other.

The page also describes how clan lore traces the two branches of Kers back to the year dot, and makes the Ferniehirst line senior, whereas genealogy clearly tells a different story.

 

Another version for comparison

http://www.clanmacfarlanegenealogy.info/genealogy/TNGWebsite/descendtext.php?personID=I18158&tree=CC&generations=5

Taken from Stirnet.  Different dates.

 

 

There's a lot of confusion about which one got murdered and when.

My theory is that Andrew not Robert was "younger of Cessford", being Walter's grandson and heir, and was killed 13 years after Flodden, in the time of James V.  But somebody said before instead of after, and then it all got garbled.

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