Does a lack of similarity of names indicate a different family?

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Still on the topic of the 1839 will of Samuel Miller (could he still be George Miller's father without mentioning him in the will).  Samuel names sons Alfred, Samuel and Edward.  George Miller's Family, children, grandchildren etc., didn't use these names.  Instead they favored William, George, James, Henry, Charles and Reuben.  Samuel's wife was Phebe Kidney.  There are no females in the family with the name Phebe.
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in Genealogy Help by Pat Miller G2G6 Mach 2 (28.8k points)

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Doing genealogy like I have, same name do not mean same family, but it is helpful, follow the records, follow the graves, follow Marriage, Wills, birth, deaths, and land rights,

Forexample the parrish line it is all mixed up, very simular names, but not everyone is connected like people feel.  People with the same name are not direct family like Elihu Parrish & Elihugh A Parrish, completely different families.

None of my Miller's repeat name's.  They pass the first name down in the middle name. I don't know if that helps. you'll need the marriage, birth and death and millitary records some times to get the middle name.
by Anonymous Cassel G2G6 Mach 1 (10.6k points)
Thank you, Amy.  I see what you mean. With George and his real descendants I can prove, the same male first names keep popping up.  My late cousin Gloria Miller who was researching George thought we'd find one of these common names, John was another one, as his father.  But maybe not if there was a break in the family.

There's not as many middle names in my Millers.  The first two sons of George had no middle names.  On other family names I find a maiden name from a previous generation used as a middle name.  Example: James Holly Bartlett's mother was Mary Holly.

What you say about your Millers is interesting because while George's first two sons had no middle name, the one that had children, my ancestor, William, gave his 3 sons middle names: Henry, Reuben and Russell.  Perhaps one of those is the grandfather's name.  I will keep searching.  There must be the answer somewhere.

Some thing that might help..

George Miller

mentioned in the record of James Clement Miller

Name George Miller
birth_place New York State, U.S.A.
gender Male
Wife Amelia Munro
Son James Clement Miller

Other information in the record of James Clement Miller

from Ontario Deaths and Overseas Deaths, 1939-1947

Name James Clement Miller
Event Type Death
Event Date 09 Feb 1922
Event Place Owen Sound, Grey, Ontario
Gender Male
Age 81
Birth Date 6 Aug
Birthplace Cooksville
Birth Year (Estimated) 1841
Burial Date 11 Feb 1922
Burial Place Owen Sound
Father's Name George Miller
Mother's Name Amelia Munro

Citing this Record

"Ontario Deaths, 1869-1937 and Overseas Deaths, 1939-1947," database with images, FamilySearch (https://familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:JDNH-ZY5 : 10 March 2018), George Miller in entry for James Clement Miller, 09 Feb 1922; citing Owen Sound, Grey, Ontario, 14169, Archives of Ontario, Toronto; FHL microfilm 1,907,004.

another source...

George Miller

mentioned in the record of Sophia Ann Rutherford

Name George Miller
birth_place New York State
gender Male
Wife Amelia Munroe
Daughter Sophia Ann Rutherford

Other information in the record of Sophia Ann Rutherford

from Ontario Deaths and Overseas Deaths, 1939-1947

Name Sophia Ann Rutherford
Event Type Death
Event Date 19 Jan 1921
Event Place Owen Sound, Grey, Ontario
Gender Female
Age 82
Birth Date 01 Aug 1838
Birthplace Ontario
Burial Date 21 Jan 1921
Burial Place Owen Sound
Father's Name George Miller
Mother's Name Amelia Munroe

Citing this Record

"Ontario Deaths, 1869-1937 and Overseas Deaths, 1939-1947," database with images, FamilySearch (https://familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:JND3-JR6 : 9 March 2018), George Miller in entry for Sophia Ann Rutherford, 19 Jan 1921; citing Owen Sound, Grey, Ontario, p 346 cn 014553, Archives of Ontario, Toronto; FHL microfilm 1,863,539.

George Miller

Ontario Deaths and Overseas Deaths, 1939-1947

Name George Miller
Event Type Death
Event Date 30 Apr 1891
Event Place Owen Sound, Grey, Ontario
Gender Male
Age 82
Birthplace United States America
Birth Year (Estimated) 1809

Citing this Record

"Ontario Deaths, 1869-1937 and Overseas Deaths, 1939-1947," database with images, FamilySearch (https://familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:JXCD-3MR : 9 March 2018), George Miller, 30 Apr 1891; citing Owen Sound, Grey, Ontario, Item 3 cn 5479, Archives of Ontario, Toronto; FHL microfilm 1,853,536.

Geo Miller

mentioned in the record of Marie Mcintosh

Name Geo Miller
gender Male
Wife Amelia Miller
Daughter Marie Mcintosh

Other information in the record of Marie Mcintosh

from Ontario Deaths and Overseas Deaths, 1939-1947

Name Marie Mcintosh
Event Type Death
Event Date 06 Jul 1917
Event Place Derby Tp, Grey, Ontario
Gender Female
Age 71
Birthplace Cookesville
Birth Year (Estimated) 1846
Burial Place Owen Sound
Father's Name Geo Miller
Mother's Name Amelia Miller

Citing this Record

"Ontario Deaths, 1869-1937 and Overseas Deaths, 1939-1947," database with images, FamilySearch (https://familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:JDDP-4BX : 10 March 2018), Geo Miller in entry for Marie Mcintosh, 06 Jul 1917; citing Derby Tp, Grey, Ontario, yr 1917 cn 14127, Archives of Ontario, Toronto; FHL microfilm 1,862,684.

George Miller

mentioned in the record of Amelia Grant Miller

Name George Miller
gender Male
Wife Amelia Grant Miller

Other information in the record of Amelia Grant Miller

from Ontario Deaths and Overseas Deaths, 1939-1947

Name Amelia Grant Miller
Event Type Death
Event Date 29 Apr 1880
Event Place Owen Sound, Grey, Ontario
Gender Female
Age 64
Birthplace Edwardsburg, Ontario
Birth Year (Estimated) 1816
Spouse's Name George Miller

Citing this Record

"Ontario Deaths, 1869-1937 and Overseas Deaths, 1939-1947," database with images, FamilySearch (https://familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:JDGV-12K : 9 March 2018), George Miller in entry for Amelia Grant Miller, 29 Apr 1880; citing Owen Sound, Grey, Ontario, yr 1880 cn 4866, Archives of Ontario, Toronto; FHL microfilm 1,853,229.

George Miller

mentioned in the record of Zena Mcintosh and Maria Miller

Name George Miller
gender Male
Wife Amelia
Daughter Maria Miller

Other information in the record of Zena Mcintosh and Maria Miller

from Ontario Marriages

Name Zena Mcintosh
Birth Date 1840
Age 27
Spouse's Name Maria Miller
Spouse's Birth Date 1845
Spouse's Age 22
Event Date 13 Feb 1867
Event Place Grey,Ontario
Father's Name Lewis Mcintosh
Mother's Name Elizabeth
Spouse's Father's Name George Miller
Spouse's Mother's Name Amelia

Citing this Record

"Ontario Marriages, 1800-1910," database, FamilySearch(https://familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:XLPG-N6S : 10 February 2018), George Miller in entry for Zena Mcintosh and Maria Miller, 13 Feb 1867; citing Grey,Ontario; FHL microfilm 1,030,057

 

Amelia Grant Miller

Grant is normally a male name.. I can't help but wonder if it was her Mother's Maiden name.  food for thought.. Normally I would look in the census before and after.. for grants near by in that area, to see if it is possible, but the census is not online.  

Thank you Amy,  Yes these are the children George had with his second wife.  I have them in the tree I was developing.  There's also another son, Robert Boyd Miller.  All of them were born in Ontario.  As to your thought that Amelia Grant Munro's mother might have been a Grant, that's a good idea.  Her father was Hugh Munro, born Rehoboth, Massachusetts, 1765, died Edwardsburgh, Ontario 1855, at age 90. His wife that is mentioned in records was Grace Fraser.  They are both listed in the Loyalists of Ontario records on Ancestry. But the record says they married 27 Sep 1833.  Clearly, she was not the mother of Amelia Grant Munro, but a second wife.  So perhaps the first wife was a Grant.  Hugh was a lieut. in the Loyal Rangers.

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