Searching for birth parents of Henry Crock formerly Cyr b 1833 or btw 1826-36 in New Brunswick

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Henry Crock came to Australia in 1856 and lived till 1910. Died in Western Australia. I  am seeking his parents. Alternative names are Honore for Henry and Cyr for Crock
in Genealogy Help by Liz Crock G2G Crew (410 points)
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Hi Liz, this would be the husband of Charlotte Grimshaw?  

Crock was not a NB name: I found 3 in the whole of the 1851 Census - searching all of NS, NB, Ontario and Quebec.  The only possible Crock breadcrumb is this: http://www.bac-lac.gc.ca/eng/census/1851/Pages/item.aspx?itemid=328578  Edeste Crock is age 30, a servant in the Racine house.  Scroll down a few lines and there is a Cyr family. No Henry or Henri.  

ts also fascinating how few Henry's there were in the large Cyr family!  The Drouin records show nothing useful.

In the 1951 Census I found one (1) Henri Cyr - age 1  in NB  (http://www.bac-lac.gc.ca/eng/census/1851/Pages/item.aspx?itemid=341399). and (1) Honoré Saint-Cyr in Quebec, at the age of 3 - http://www.bac-lac.gc.ca/eng/census/1851/Pages/item.aspx?itemid=1319266. These both seem too young.

So, sometimes I brick wall can be busted by working in the other direction. Your family could be a Quebec family that moved east, but the NB Genealogical Society notes Jean-Baptiste Cyr and Marguerite Cormier as the ancestors of the Cyrs in NB. They are already in WikiTree: (https://www.wikitree.com/wiki/Cyr-72)

They were Acadians who moved from Nova Scotia to New Brunswick, and J-B was buried on Crock's Point (near Fredericton).  Crocks Point might be worth investigating, who was it named after, and was there a relationship?  Their children moved to Madawaska.  If you work on their sons, and their sons sons, I suspect you might track down a Henry.

Happy hunting!

A couple of references on this family.  Not all are available online, and some may involve travelling to NB Archives.  Some are in french, I don't have time to do the digging for them, but I can help you translate if you get stuck, feel free to message me.

I pulled one to the top of the list, it suggests "Crock" may have been nickname for Jean-Baptiste Cyr.

  • The life and times of Jean Baptiste Cyr (Crock) Acadian Patriarch 1710-1785 by Joseph W. Sears, 21 pages.
  • Collections of New Brunswick Historical Society, Vol. 1, No. 9, pages 375 to 376 (https://archive.org/stream/collectionsofnew1t6newb#page/n3/mode/2up) :  
  • Thomas Albert’s Histoire du Madawaska, pgs. 81-85, 97, 102, 103, 308-309, 316-317:
  • Bona Arsenault’s Histoire et généalogie des Acadiens, Vol. II, pages 565 and 567: 
  • Leo G. Cyr’s Madawaskan Heritage, pgs. 208-222, 228-233 (https://catalog.hathitrust.org/Record/005713580); 
  • Leo Poitras et. al. Répertoire généalogique des descendants et descendants de Théophile Cyr et Judith Lizotte : 
Thank you Laurie looks like some valuable resources there. Yes the nickname or dit name is certain and several branches then took the name Crock

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Could he have had a different first name and possibly went by a middle name or confirmation name? There are lots of Cyr names in New Brunswick but the Provincial Archives doesn't have an Honore or Henry the right age (lots of people didn't end up registers for birth in that time period) and the 1851 Census has 240 entries but not the one you need. You might need to do it the hard way -- read the birth returns line by line. I'll poke some more later.
by Doug McCallum G2G6 Pilot (424k points)
Yes thank you Doug I do think that is possible. EEG Henry could have been a middle name
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And yes, our Henry was married to Charlotte Grimshaw in Australia
by Liz Crock G2G Crew (410 points)
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He is my 6th Great Grandfather

Jean-Baptiste Cyr dit Croc, II

Also Known As:

"Croque", "Crock"

Birthdate:

circa January 26, 1708

Birthplace:

Beaubassin, Acadia, Canada 

Death:

Died May 1, 1785 in Crock's Point, Kingsclear, New Brunswick, Canada

Place of Burial:

Crocks Point

Immediate Family:

Son of Jean-Baptiste Cyr, I and Françoise Melançon 
Husband of Marguerite-Anne Cormier 
Father of Joseph François CyrPaul Cyr;  

Jacques (Sire) Cyr, LieutenantPierre CyrFrancois (Sire) Cyr, Capt and 8 others 
Brother of Pierre-Paul (Sire) CyrMarie-Anne CyrMichel (Sire) Cyr

Marguerite Cyr/Sire;Julien Cyr and 4 others 

Occupation:

Maple Sugar Farmer

 

by Michael Cyr G2G Crew (590 points)

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