Joseph Runyon-18, orphaned profile with very little data

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Working on my “ancestors without parents” stuff. Came across this profile of Joseph Runyon who has very little data (only a birth year) and no activity since 2014. I wouldn’t know what to do if I adopted this one to see if he is in my line somewhere. Any advice?

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WikiTree profile: Joseph Runyon
in WikiTree Help by Pip Sheppard G2G Astronaut (2.2m points)
And... how do I format the profile link in my question so it becomes a true link?
There's a box below the narrative box where you can add the ID of the profile and it will automatically link.  Edit your question and you should see it.

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looks like he is 1.iv. on this list. there is a good chance he is lying around in one of the olde New Jersey cemeteries. If you can't access the primary sources maybe try the close relatives you might luck into a will or birth/ marriage/ death records. He probably didn't travel too far off.

I would try to contact the webmaster and find their primary sources.

http://kowallekfamily.com/genealogy/reports/desc-8252.xml
by Ron Moore G2G6 Mach 2 (21.3k points)
here's the patriarch

https://www.findagrave.com/memorial/7571013/vincent-(rongnion)-runyon

and in the comments a 7th gg daughter. She may hold the keys to the kingdom.

good luck this family looks like a full time job with pension plan.

and now it gets interesting Vincent's grandson Reune, married Rachel (Drake) Runyon.... which leads back to Sir Francis Drake!
Alright, Ron, what are you getting me into?!? :) I think I’m going to take a stab at this one as I think Ol’ Vincent just might be my ancestor. Thanks... I think.
Is this the same Joseph runyon

Name:    Joseph Runyon
Father:    Vincent Rongion
Mother:    Anne Martha Bouchieere
Birth Date:    1674
City:    Elizabethtown
County:    Essex
State:    NJ
Country:    USA

The source is derivative (family data collection) however it may help you with a thesis.
Looking over at FamilySearch, I'm not finding actual sources, but rather a boatload (80+) individual family trees that show Joseph as a son of Vincent Rongnion and Anne Boucher. This is certainly plausible, but I strongly suspect that a lot of these trees are merely cut-and-paste from each other.

There are a few trees that might show what I think of as "collectors syndrome", where many children are ung off of a set of parents, simply because it makes an impressive list. The longer child lists run between 12 and 14 kids, spread out from John Vincent (~1669) to Hugh (1715). That one's clearly incorrect, as Hugh is a grandson.

So the data is sketchy, at best. But we might, as Steve Schmidt suggests above, tentatively start to look at the Vincent Rongnion | Anne Boucher couple as possible parents.

Meanwhile, there appear to be several paths between the Runyon line and the Drakes. There's the Reune Runyon | Rachel Drake link.

Then there's the line from
Capt. Drake | Mary Walker >>
Elizabeth Drake | Hugh Dunn >>
Anne Elizabeth Dunn | John Vincent Runyon (abt 1669, son of Vincent Rongnion and Anne Boucher)

There's a 3rd path:
Capt. Drake | Mary Walker >>
Elizabeth Drake | Hugh Dunn >>
Martha Dunn | Thomas Runyon (abt 1675, another son of son of Vincent Rongnion and Anne Boucher)

And a 4th:
Capt. Drake | Mary Walker >>
Elizabeth Drake | Hugh Dunn >>
Mary Dunn | Hezekiah Bonham >>
Sarah Bonham | Thomas Runyon Jr. (abt 1703, son of Thomas Runyon and Martha Dunn)

It looks like the Drake, Dunn, and Runyon families were pretty close...

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