The Orcutt Family - William?

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I keep bumping up against the Orcutts, especially William who died 1693, and having to reject merges because the ancestor line is messed up. Time to unravel.

Current profiles on Wikitree

  1. William Orcutt-467 b. 1612 Inverness Scotland; d. 1 Jan 1693 Bridgewater f/o Caleb Orcutt (1678-1759). No parents
  2. William Orcutt-473 b. 1636 Fillongley England; d. 14 Sep 1693 Bridgewater; m. to MM Lane-466;  f/o Hannah Orcutt-39 Tilson. No parents
  3. William Orcutt-231 b. 1640 Fillongley England; d. 14 Sep 1693 Bridgewater; m. to MM Lane-466; f/o William b.1663, Joseph b. 1672; Benjamin b. 1679. Son of Orcutt-34
  4. William Orcutt-34 b. 1618 Fillongley England; d. 1693 Bridgewater; no wife; father of most of the correct children. Parents William Orcutt-33(1592-1694) and Susana Edson-301
  5. William Orcutt-33 b. 1592 Warwickshire; died 1694 Weymouth Massachusetts; h/o Susanna (Edson) Orcutt; Father of Susanna (Orcutt) Edson & William Orcutt-34
  6. William Awcotte-1 b. 1639 Manchester England; d. 1693 Hingham; m. to MM Lane-466; no children; Parents William Awcotte-2 and Margaret Bickley-169

#1 Orcutt-467 I believe is a case of mistaken identity. Caleb is the son of the next generation William. Change the dates for William and then merge with a second generation William. and then merge the Calebs. Done

#6 William Awcotte-1 represents a real person bpt 1639 son of William Awcotte bpt 1605. The sources that claim this are very obscure (maybe at the Family History Library) and have not been examined. The alleged baptisms in Mancetter of father and son don't turn up at Ancestry, Family Search or FreeReg. Although there may be proof the unavailibilty leaves me in doubt.  Disposition : Remove Wife MM Lane and death date. Link to profile of immigrant William Orcutt

#4 William Orcutt-34. I'd like to keep the William with the 1618 birth but he has all the children attached. A. Disconnect all the children and put them with the final immigrant profile. (this sounds like work) B. Disconnect the parents, Change the birth date to 1640 ish. Orcutt-231 (child) definitely has to be disconnected, since this is where the generation mess up is. Perhaps create a new William b. c 1618 but since the Susanna Orcutt Edson is also questionable maybe not. This needs some extra thought and research into the Susan issue. 

#3 Orcutt-231. Definitely needs to disconnect from father, Orcutt-34. Using option B above merge in Orcutt-34.

#2 Orcutt-473 Merge into Orcutt-34

Thoughts, Objections?

WikiTree profile: William Orcutt
in Genealogy Help by Anne B G2G Astronaut (1.2m points)
edited by Anne B

2 Answers

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No suggestions, but thank you for trying to straighten all this out!
by DJ Jasper G2G Crew (600 points)
you're welcome
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I have created a new profile for William Orcutt of Bridgewater (m. 1663 Martha/Mary Lane, d. 1693 in Bridgewater) that I believe reflects all the latest Orcutt research. As discussed and sourced in the new profile, modern research indicates that it is unlikely that he was the William Orchar bpt in Fillongley in 1618 and more likely the William Alcocke/Awcotte bpt in Mancetter in 1639. As a result, I have made Alcocke the LNAB for the new profile but marked the parentage as uncertain. Given the uncertainty as to whether the 1639 Alcocke bpt relates to William Orcutt, an argument can be made that the LNAB should be Orcutt, even though it is pretty much certain that the Orcutt spelling only arose after he emigrated to New England.

If there is consensus that the LNAB should be Orcutt rather than Alcocke, I will change the LNAB of the new profile according and merge it into an existing Orcutt profile (keeping the new profile's up-to-date bio). Otherwise, I propose that all existing profiles for William Orcutt d 1693 in Bridgewater be merged into the new profile. Those profiles include: Orcutt-467Orcutt-34Orcutt-473Awcotte-1 and Orcutt-231

by Chase Ashley G2G6 Pilot (217k points)
edited by Chase Ashley
Note also that research indicates that there was no Susannah (Orcutt) Edson - the wife of Samuel Edson was Susannah Bickley, most likely the sister of William Orcutt's (1631 0 1694) mother (Margaret Bickley).
Re no Susannah (Orcutt) Edson - Yes, that is discussed in both Samuel Edson's profile and William Orcutt's profile.

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