I need some help with the name "Laval Graf Nugent von Westmeath"

+4 votes
I don't know how to lay out this name. First, last, title etc. Here is the Wikipedia page https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Laval_Nugent_von_Westmeath
in Policy and Style by Richard Devlin G2G6 Pilot (491k points)

Since he is a European Aristocrat, then the EuroAristo naming standards should be followed. https://www.wikitree.com/wiki/Help:Name_Fields_for_European_Aristocrats

So Laval, as first name and preferred name, with EuroAristo naming, the titles go in the nickname field - so this should be Graf von Nugent, titles don't go in the prefix field.

Nugent then should be his Last Name at Birth.  The question of what to put in his Current Last Name and Other Last Names is a bit of a puzzle.  I'm not totally sure why Wikipedia gives his name as Nugent von Westmeath, in one of the sources, he is just Nugent, and in another the family name is given as Nugent-Westmeath.  

I think in English we would refer to him as Nugent of the family of the Earls of Westmeath, but this wouldn't have any affect on his name, but in German this probably equates to Nugent von Westmeath?  Perhaps that as his Current Last Name and Nugent-Westmeath as Other Last Name?

1 Answer

+3 votes
Since he spent his entire adult life in the Habsburgs' service (he became a cadet in the Imperial army in 1793) his Current Last Name should be Nugent von Westmeath (the hyphenated version is more or less shorthand for most such names and he would have been introduced with the "von" predicate) and since he was born in Ireland his LNAB should follow Irish convention.
by Helmut Jungschaffer G2G6 Pilot (577k points)
Would you not use Graf anywhere in the name?
Graf is a title and EuroAristo wants those in the Nickname field.

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