Any suggestions on finding grandparents 6 or 7 generations back, when the written records disappear??

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Any suggestions on finding grandparents 6 or 7 generations back, when the written records disappear?? Samuel Lyons (De Leon?) born in Germany (1728) married to Agnes Judah (Erinxman) Lyons . Samuel was not of German decent as far as I know. His parents were John Lyons and Rachel (Mary) Foreman.

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in Genealogy Help by Michelle Lyons G2G1 (1.9k points)
retagged by Ellen Smith

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Does the written trail end, or the trail that is published online?  

I'm only asking because I've had really good luck nibbling away at these brick walls in the local archives, when I can get there.  A lot of the written information has not yet been digitized, but its still available in-person, sometimes with gloves on.

Can you tell this genealogy adventure has altered my travel bucket-list, and changed what I do when I travel!
by Laurie Giffin G2G6 Mach 8 (83.6k points)
selected by Pip Sheppard
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By no written records, I assume you mean no church records, no wills, no land records, no notarial records, no family bible, no grave stones, and so on, and you are sure that none of these exist. I think, then, you have come to an end on this family.

If Germany were a country with a strong oral history for family genealogy, like Polynesia, then it might be possible to go further, especially if the family had some prominence.
by George Fulton G2G6 Pilot (391k points)
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It looks to me like the main sources (possibly the only sources) for these people and their descendants are user-contributed family trees found on the Internet (including the Pedigree Resource File, which unfortunately is largely populated by what are essentially user-contributed trees). Sometimes a bit of erroneous information (even a typographical error) that gets propagated from somebody's personal tree can lead us very far astray. To avoid pursuing what might be bad clues, I think it's a good idea to go to the earliest person in this paternal line for whom you have solid records (maybe it's Nunez Lyons), compile all the primary records you have for him (census, marriage, etc.) to verify his data and his parents, then do the same with this parents, and work back from there.

by Ellen Smith G2G Astronaut (1.2m points)

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