Brickwall for Andrew Parr born 1799

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Several brains have been focused on this Andrew Parr born about 1795-1799. He claims on 1841 & 1851 Census to be born in Halifax, Yorkshire, however no confirming document found. His occupation was carrier/teamster & he died suddenly in Australia in 1866 while on the road. No official death certificate so no parents names provided. The current assumption of parents is based on name only.

His marriage to Harriot Noble carries on a local tradition of the Parr & Noble families intermarrying as in namesake Parr-1989. Where else can we look for his Halifax area birth record?

Thanks

Graeme Rose
WikiTree profile: Andrew Parr
in Genealogy Help by Graeme Rose G2G6 Mach 1 (10.7k points)
edited by Graeme Rose

Andrew Parr

 in the England, Select Births and Christenings, 1538-1975

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    Name: Andrew Parr
    Gender: Male
    Baptism Date: 24 Nov 1799
    Baptism Place: Gateshead, Durham, England
    Father: John Parr
    Mother: Mary Pearson
    FHL Film Number: 252781

    This record has two witnesses. One of them is a Noble but I can't read the first name. It looks to me like Thillius.

    Andrus Parr

     in the West Yorkshire, England, Church of England Marriages and Banns, 1813-1935

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      Name: Andrus Parr
      [Andrew Parr
      Event Type: Marriage
      Marriage Date: 29 May 1820
      Marriage Place: Kirkburton, All Hallows, Yorkshire, England
      Parish as it Appears: Kirkburton, All Hallows
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      Spouse: Harriot Nobles

      Harriot Nobles

       in the West Yorkshire, Non-Conformist Records, 1646-1985

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        Name: Harriot Nobles
        Birth Date: 19 Aug 1799
        Event Type: Baptism
        Father: John Nobles
        Mother: Betty
        Baptism Date: 31 Oct 1799
        Archive Location: Kirklees
        Parish or Chapel: Kirkburton
        Reel Number: Huddersfield, Kirkburton, Marsden, Paddock, Shelley, Soothill; K 6

        Harriot died before Andrew:

        Harriet Parr

         in the Australia, Death Index, 1787-1985

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          Name: Harriet Parr
          Death Date: 1860
          Death Place: New South Wales
          Father's name: John
          Mother's name: Betty
          Registration Year: 1860
          Registration Place: Moama, New South Wales
          Registration Number: 4610
          You probably don't want to hear this but the illiterate Harriot Nobles of an 1820 wedding cannot be the schoolmistress Harriot Noble of 1841.
          I'm not sure what that means.
          My comment was not to you Betty! Unfortunately Wikitree doesn't nest comments. It was a comment to the original poster that I think two different people are being wrongly combined.

          I've looked at it again. They do seem to be the same person more likely than not.
          I see. I'm glad that's worked out. Thanks for the help Matthew.

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          If April 27 1795 birth is correct

          Andrew Parr Born April 27 1795,Gateshead,Durham ,England,

          Father JohnParr,Mothyer Mary Pearson.

          England Births & Christenings 1538-1975
          by Wayne Morgan G2G6 Pilot (917k points)
          Yes that's undoubtedly the origin of the date but it's very distinct from Yorkshire. No Geordie could possibly claim they were born in Halifax.
          Thank you for all the contributions.

          Matthew's opinions match mine, but in a co-operative tree, I need proof rather than just feel. My feelings are that my Andrew Parr is a member of the other local Halifax area family. They use the same first names. They frequently marry into the Noble family. Geordies need not apply.

          Regards

          Graeme Rose

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