G2G: Brickwall for Andrew Parr born 1799

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Help please,

Several brains have been focused on this Andrew Parr born about 1795-1799. He claims on 1841 & 1851 Census to be born in Halifax, Yorkshire, however no confirming document found. His occupation was carrier/teamster & he died suddenly in Australia in 1866 while on the road. No official death certificate so no parents names provided. The current assumption of parents is based on name only.

His marriage to Harriot Noble carries on a local tradition of the Parr & Noble families intermarrying as in namesake Parr-1989. Where else can we look for his Halifax area birth record?

Thanks

Graeme Rose

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Andrew Parr

 in the England, Select Births and Christenings, 1538-1975

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Name:	Andrew Parr
Gender:	Male
Baptism Date:	24 Nov 1799
Baptism Place:	Gateshead, Durham, England
Father:	John Parr
Mother:	Mary Pearson
FHL Film Number:	252781

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This record has two witnesses. One of them is a Noble but I can't read the first name. It looks to me like Thillius.

Andrus Parr

 in the West Yorkshire, England, Church of England Marriages and Banns, 1813-1935

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Name:	Andrus Parr [Andrew Parr]
Event Type:	Marriage
Marriage Date:	29 May 1820
Marriage Place:	Kirkburton, All Hallows, Yorkshire, England
Parish as it Appears:	Kirkburton, All Hallows
Search Photos:	Search for 'Kirkburton, All Hallows' in the UK City, Town and Village Photos collection
Spouse:	Harriot Nobles

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Harriot Nobles

 in the West Yorkshire, Non-Conformist Records, 1646-1985

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Name:	Harriot Nobles
Birth Date:	19 Aug 1799
Event Type:	Baptism
Father:	John Nobles
Mother:	Betty
Baptism Date:	31 Oct 1799
Archive Location:	Kirklees
Parish or Chapel:	Kirkburton
Reel Number:	Huddersfield, Kirkburton, Marsden, Paddock, Shelley, Soothill; K 6

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Harriot died before Andrew:

Harriet Parr

 in the Australia, Death Index, 1787-1985

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Name:	Harriet Parr
Death Date:	1860
Death Place:	New South Wales
Father's name:	John
Mother's name:	Betty
Registration Year:	1860
Registration Place:	Moama, New South Wales
Registration Number:	4610

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You probably don't want to hear this but the illiterate Harriot Nobles of an 1820 wedding cannot be the schoolmistress Harriot Noble of 1841.

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I'm not sure what that means.

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My comment was not to you Betty! Unfortunately Wikitree doesn't nest comments. It was a comment to the original poster that I think two different people are being wrongly combined.

I've looked at it again. They do seem to be the same person more likely than not.

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I see. I'm glad that's worked out. Thanks for the help Matthew.

Answer 1

If April 27 1795 birth is correct

Andrew Parr Born April 27 1795,Gateshead,Durham ,England,

Father JohnParr,Mothyer Mary Pearson.

England Births & Christenings 1538-1975

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Yes that's undoubtedly the origin of the date but it's very distinct from Yorkshire. No Geordie could possibly claim they were born in Halifax.

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Thank you for all the contributions.

Matthew's opinions match mine, but in a co-operative tree, I need proof rather than just feel. My feelings are that my Andrew Parr is a member of the other local Halifax area family. They use the same first names. They frequently marry into the Noble family. Geordies need not apply.

Regards

Graeme Rose