I would a find grandparent with different yrs of birth?.

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Manuel Gonzales born either in Mexico 1898?. Birth years are 1889,1888,1887 or 1986 or 1891. Died in Bastrop Cesar creek Texas 5/16/1965 Died certificate has about 75yrs of age no birth year. Race is all Whit, Hispanic and OT any help appreciated.
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Manuel Gonzales

 in the Texas, Death Certificates, 1903-1982

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    Name: Manuel Gonzales
    Gender: Male
    Race: Negro (Black)
    Age: 75
    Birth Date: abt 1890
    Birth Place: Texas
    Residence: Bastrop, Bastrop, Texas, USA
    Death Date: 16 May 1965
    Death Place: Bastrop, Bastrop, Texas, USA

    Manuel Gonzales

     in the U.S., Social Security Applications and Claims Index, 1936-2007

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      Name: Manuel Gonzales
      Gender: Male
      Spouse: Minnie Sims
      Child: Robert Gonzales
      Nice work, Betty!
      Thank you Ellen.

      Manuel Gonzales

       in the Texas, Select County Marriage Index, 1837-1965

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        Name: Manuel Gonzales
        Gender: Male
        Marriage Date: 24 Apr 1913
        Marriage Place: Bastrop, Texas, United States
        Spouse: Minnie Slider
        FHL Film Number: 966042

        Manuel Gonzalez

         in the U.S., WWI Civilian Draft Registrations, 1917-1918

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          Name: Gonzalez, Manuel
          Birth Date: 31 Dec 1891
          Birth Place: Fort Stockton TX
          City/County: Pecos
          State: TX
          Ethnicity: W

          Birth date listed here:

          Manuel Gonzalez

           in the U.S., World War I Draft Registration Cards, 1917-1918

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          Name: Manuel Gonzalez
          [Manuel Gonzales] 
          Race: Spanish, American (Spanish)
          Marital Status: Single
          Birth Date: 31 Dec 1891
          Birth Place: Texas, USA
          Residence Place: Pecos, Texas, USA
          Physical Build: Stout
          Height: Medium
          Hair Description: Not Bald
          Hair Color: Black
          Eye Color: Brown
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          Manuel Gonzalez is a very common name, which complicates the search. Do you have a place of birth for him? Knowing the state would be good, but state and town would be a better indication of possible success.

          Border crossing records will often give the place of last residence, sometimes place of birth, and age. But, with such a common name, you must be sure you have the right Manuel Gonzalez.

          Doing a search for Manuel Gonzalez, born 1890 to 1899 for example, gives more than 800 hits at Family Search. The census should give his approximate year of immigration (sometimes these dates are not accurate) which can narrow your search results.

          The Family Search indexed/extracted church records generally end in the 1880s. Ancestry.com has indexed civil records, which for births will sometimes go into the 1940s, but it depends on the location.

          by George Fulton G2G6 Pilot (377k points)
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          my DNA Aguascalientes & Zacatecas Mexico. So how do I pick the right year and right person?.

          Basically you need some information that distinguishes your person’s from others of similar names. Any of these can help, the more you have the better. Such as

          1. Parent’s name
          2. Birthdate, or age in lieu of birthdate, but keep in mind that someone’s stated age could be in error for any number of reasons
          3. The Pueblo, hacienda, or Rancho they came from. These are generally given in birth and marriage records
          4. If you find likely candidates, try to find marriage and death dates, or births of children. These can tell you they may have stayed in Mexico.
          5. Look at border crossing records. Did they come with a spouse or other family members. Compare this date with the immigration date in the US Census.
          6. Look for the person in the 1930 Mexican National Census.
          7. Talk to older family members, and find out what they know.
          8. Lastly, keep in mind that not everyone is in the church or civil records. While these records are quite good, it is possible to find someone in a marriage record, and identify who the parents are, and where they came from, but not find them in the birth or baptismal records, even though the rest of the family is clearly there.
          Not all the civil and church records have been indexed. Family Search is better for indexed church records, Ancestry is better for indexed civil records.
          Some the names have been misspelled or misread in making the indexes. Sometimes you need to be creative. Look at all records that seem close.
          If you only have minimal info, this can be a long search.

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