Proposal: suspend default approval of merges involving Public profiles

+17 votes
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This proposal  is admittedly the result of frustration, but the problem has been going on for several months now, ever since the new merging process went live.

When a merge is proposed between a Public (green privacy) profile and an Open (white privacy) profile, and there is no response from the managers of one of the profiles (it does not matter which), the merge becomes default-approved and, in the list of Pending merges, it is listed with the message "You can complete this merge after a final comparison". This message is incorrect, because only a member of the trusted list of the Green Privacy profile can complete the merge. Nobody else can. The situation is the same when both profiles have a green privacy level - the proposed merge looks like it is default approved, but it can't be completed by anyone (except probably someone on both trusted lists).

Example here, from MatchBot's proposed merges backlog: https://www.wikitree.com/index.php?title=Special:BrowseMatches&type=pending&order=datedn&canAct=0&requested=1

I'm asking that Green privacy profiles be treated like Yellow, Red and Unlisted profiles in proposed merges - NO default approval, NO message hinting that an arborist might be able to complete the merge.

I'm aware that this proposal goes against the "one tree one person one profile" objective. I contend that it would still be better than inviting users to complete an action they have no rights to complete.

Thank you.
WikiTree profile: MatchBot WikiTree
in WikiTree Tech by I R G2G6 Pilot (254k points)
This would also help to reduce the volume of G2G questions from people who are confused about why they cannot complete an apparently approved merge.

3 Answers

+6 votes
I agree, if the default only applied to Open profiles then they would not show on that list and cause less confusion.
by Dale Byers G2G Astronaut (1.2m points)
+9 votes
Isabelle

I do agree that for now Green privacy profiles be treated like Yellow, Red and Unlisted profiles in proposed merges.

It is just a concern that by adding that to the already large list of Merges that require UPM's requests, the Wikitree Team will then have to complete all these merges as well. I have UPM requests from January that still has not been resolved.
by Esmé van der Westhuizen G2G6 Mach 8 (83.7k points)
reshown by Esmé van der Westhuizen
The WikiTree Team set the policy in the first place, so they've made the judgment call that the increased work for them is balanced out by the privacy and control considerations.

I'm curious as to whether it's technically feasible to allow the merge to be performed when a PM of the Green profile actively okayed the merge, or if there's a way to automatically email the PMs of the two profiles after 30 days and remind them to deal with the merge.
Two great suggestions, Sharon!
+10 votes

Shouldn't we be asking that the process is fixed so that we can complete the action when it goes into default approval?  

The public (green) profile is supposed to be automatically opened (white).  Why is this not happening?  It seems as if that final piece after the changes were made was not completed or is not working.

From the Help Page:  "If a profile involved in a pending merge is Public when it is approved by default, it will be changed to Open."

If they can't resolve that issue, then I agree with you that these shouldn't go into approved default status.

by Susan McNamee G2G6 Mach 3 (33.7k points)

You are right of course and as I said - this issue has become frustrating.

Since the message when attempting to complete the merge reads, "Although permission for the merge has been recorded, it would violate our privacy controls to enable you to complete the merge." I believe that seals it. If it is a privacy problem, privacy takes precedence and we just stop there. I was only looking for the policy to be made official.

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